In this Episode
- [02:59]Scott Allan recounts the eerie moment he first heard voices and footsteps inside his funeral home, plus his chilling introduction to a persistent spirit via a spirit box.
- [11:36]Scott reflects on how these paranormal encounters shook his perception of reality and mental health. He also recalls visiting a mansion and detecting a powerful perfume, later revealed to be linked to a spirit.
- [20:56]Stephan dives into his own brushes with the psychic realm, including uncanny synchronicities and experiences of clairaudience.
- [31:30]Scott reveals how he stumbled upon abilities like psychometry and remote viewing, unlocking skills he never sought to learn.
- [42:16]Scott breaks down the key distinction between psychics and mediums, clarifying why every medium is psychic, but not every psychic is a medium.
- [45:42]Scott opens up about his brief foray into trance mediumship — and why it left him uneasy.
- [47:27]Scott offers practical tips for dialing down psychic sensitivity when it becomes overwhelming or intrusive.
- [50:51]Scott shares how listeners can book a personal reading with him and where to find his latest book.
Scott, it’s so great to have you on the show. I’m really excited to have you here.
Thank you so much. It’s a real pleasure. I’m glad to be here with you.
We had a great conversation when I was on your show, and I’m just full of questions and rabbit holes I want to go down. This is going to be fun. So why don’t we start with your origin story and how you came to realize that you were psychic—that you weren’t crazy, or you didn’t have some imaginary friend or whatever, but it was very real—and that the unseen world is more real than the seen world. That’s a statement I love to share, and I can’t remember who exactly I heard that from. I forget his name, but it just resonates with me.
Yeah, well, the jury’s still out on whether I’m crazy or not. I think that’s something for a later date. I don’t know, but it’s true.
I was a funeral director for 35 years, and the joke is: thousands and thousands of people had died, and not one of them talked to me until the last five years. It really was about five years before I sold my businesses that I realized something wasn’t right, but it wasn’t me. In other words, my idea and my thoughts about what mediumship was were not what was happening. That wasn’t even on the table. I was hearing voices in my funeral home. It was predominantly in the funeral home. I could hear them walking up and down the stairs, and sometimes I could smell things. I could smell cologne. I had been in the funeral business for years at that time and never experienced anything like this.
This particular funeral home I built new in 1998; I built it from the ground up. There was a building there 100 years ago, but I’m thinking, “I’ve got this brand new building. Why am I aware of this stuff?” But I just lived with it. It wasn’t scary. Nobody who came in for calling hours, I think, would have known because it wasn’t anything dramatic. It wasn’t like things were flying off the shelves. I was just aware that there was something there with me. Then I sold and got out, and when I left the funeral business, I had a friend who worked for MIT at the time. She’s now retired, but she’s a fair amount older than I, and she said, “I’m going to this historical museum. At one time, it was a Catholic church rectory way back years ago.”
She said the story is that they’ve got this museum in there, and it’s haunted. She says, “Every once in a while, I do something like that. We’ll see.” And I thought, “Oh, I don’t know.” I mean, as a funeral director, that wasn’t something you did. You joined a service organization. You joined the Kiwanis, or some other organization, but you just didn’t go ghost hunting.
But I thought she was older than me. She’s not going to get herself into anything crazy, and worst-case scenario, as long as I can run out of the room faster than she can, we’re good. And I probably could—she has a bad knee.
Because I think the old adage is you don’t have to outrun the ghost. You just have to outrun the person who is with you.
That’s exactly it. But it was like watching paint dry. And I tell you, the social part of it was fun. There was a little thrill to it, but really, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing happened.
They had a little box, and it’s called a spirit box, and it’s really just an old transistor radio that they’ve hacked to scan the channels really quickly. The theory is that if there were a spirit present, it could use the white noise between the stations to communicate. And honestly, I was a huge skeptic, even though I had all these experiences with that kind of stuff.
I was like, “Okay, so maybe there’s something haunted, but now it’s gonna talk to me and have a conversation with me?” And we did that. There was nothing. “Do you know anybody’s name?” And we’re just listening to this. Nothing, nothing.
So I had been recording on a little personal recorder that I use from time to time, and I brought that with me just to see if I picked up anything. When I got home, I listened to it. There was a man there. He said, “Do you know anybody’s name?” There were about 15 of them who called my name out. I heard it over and over and over and over, and it was only on my recording.
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I got goosebumps when you started talking about it. It’s like the weirdest thing, but it was kind of cool. Were you able to play it for her from your recorder? And she didn’t hear it then?
She could hear it. It was wild. I thought, “Oh, man, that’s kind of cool,” not thinking, “Oh, I must be a medium.” No, I didn’t think that at all. I just thought, “Well, that was a neat thing.”
She said to me, which was sort of interesting, “I’ve never had that happen to me before. I’ve been doing this for years. I’ve heard them say my name maybe once on a recording, but everybody heard it. It was live. Never, never had that happen.”
So I went on a few more. Nothing really took place. Then we were going to go to this place called Wilson Castle. It’s an American castle. It was built by someone who came over from England, and they built this thing, and the place is just beautiful.
We were going, and I said, “Well, I’m going to get one of those little boxes that scans the channels just to see.” So I grabbed a spirit box, and it came in the mail. Now I’m at home. My house is not haunted. There’s nothing at all. I put batteries in the thing, and I turned it on, and the first thing that came out was “Talk to Scott,” and I said, “I’m Scott.” I’m talking to this thing, like, “Who are you?” “This is David.”
So I called her up. I said, “Hey Julie, check this out.” So I played it for her. She says, “Oh my God.” She says, “But don’t ever do that in your house. It’s like using an Ouija board in your living room. Don’t ever do that. That’s where you live. Don’t ever play where you live. You don’t want to invite anything.”
So I said, “Okay, that’s fine.”
A week later, it’s a Friday night, I’m home, and I have a friend who’s at work now. She works in a hair salon, and I guess she was there on Friday night just doing one of her clients. This man walks in and says, “Is Scott here?”
She said, “No, Scott’s not here. Why would he be here? But I can leave a message for him.”
He said, “Okay, tell him David stopped by.”
So she sends me this text message and says, “David stopped by.” And I said, “David, who? I don’t know David.”
So, she sends me the text. She sends me the security cam footage. Sure enough, there’s the guy. He comes in. He’s as bald as a cucumber. He certainly wasn’t there for a haircut. I don’t know him. I’ve never heard of him. I’ve never seen him before. I don’t know anybody by that name.
It bothered me, not on a paranormal level, but more on a “Why is this guy reaching out to me? Who is he? Who did I get angry at or something?” That’s what I’m thinking. I just couldn’t think of it.
That night, we got together, had dinner, and I said, “Hey, Julie, check this out.” And I showed it to her. She said, “Isn’t that the name of the guy that came through the box a week ago? David?”
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She says, “And I hate to say this, I think the voice sounds similar.” I don’t know if it sounded similar or not, but she wasn’t helping- let’s just put it that way—she wasn’t helping at all.
So I thought, “That’s bizarre.” And from that moment on, it was David all the time. We went up to Wilson Castle. David was coming through, asking about me. It went on for quite a long time. Didn’t matter where I was. At first, it was funny and cute, and then it became very frightening.
Yeah, it’s like spirit stalking or something.
Well, here’s the thing, yes and no. Part of it was, is it spirit, or is it mental illness? You don’t necessarily want to have that conversation with somebody. And let me tell you, WebMD, or whatever it was—I looked up schizophrenia. Don’t do it. It doesn’t help. You feel like you’ve completely lost your mind.
Because WebMD isn’t synonymous with materialism. There is nothing non-physical.
No, it’s true. And so I watched it a little bit longer, I should say. I took my son, who was quite young at the time, out on a Sunday morning. I was going to get some donuts. He wanted donuts. We went for donuts.
I had the radio on in the car, and he’s in the back seat, doing whatever he’s doing, and I’m listening to this channel. I hit the flip on the channel when it went to commercial, and I heard “Scott.” I’ve never had it happen in the car before. So I pulled out a cell phone, and I said, “I’m Scott, what’s your name?”
And the voice came through the car, “David’s back.” And I thought, “This isn’t normal.” And I looked at my son. He was just back there, but he was young, so he could have just not even paid attention to it.
So I had gone later in the day. I was scheduled to go on this tour of this mansion, and when I had my funeral homes, this mansion was in town. In fact, I used to live about four doors down from this, but it was an old, dilapidated, rundown building.
At the time, I always thought, “My God, it must be amazing in there if they ever fixed it up,” and I thought it would end up being torn down. It was in really tough shape, but somebody bought it. They spent a million-plus—had to have—just restoring this whole thing. And they were giving tours. So I went. I wanted to see this place.
When I got in, they were telling us a little bit about the house. Now I’m sitting in the front ladies’ parlor. It’s about 12 of us. I’m sitting right in front of the old fireplace, and this woman decides that she’s going to spray her perfume. And it wasn’t just a little bit of like, “Oh, that’s a nice, clean scent.” No, it was like thick, old lady French perfume, and it was strong and overpowering.
And I thought to myself, “Why would you do this?” I didn’t actually know which one of them did it. All I know is that all of a sudden, it was unbearable. And I said to Julie, “I’m going to step out. I want to get a breath of fresh air, because I can’t even breathe.”
And she said, “Why? What’s the matter?”
I said, “Can’t you smell that perfume?”
“No, I don’t smell anything.”
I said, “What?”
And so the woman next to me said, “Do you smell perfume?”
I said, “Yeah.”
And she says, “Well, I don’t.” She says, “But Ellen Pierce, who used to own this house 100 years ago, has been known to give off the scent of perfume to people who can sense her, or people who are sensitive,” I think is what she said.
“Well, why me? I’m not sensitive.” That’s what I’m thinking to myself. I’m still completely clueless about this. That day, I actually saw an apparition appear across the ceiling. It disappeared between the chandelier and the ceiling.
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Yeah, it was crazy. This was the day that kind of changed everything. And then I felt—I knew there were two spirits with me. They were coming closer to me. They walked along beside me, and I could feel them come behind me. If you can imagine—I don’t know if you’ve ever seen those; they look like crystal balls, but you put your hand on it, and it’s like electricity inside. It felt like that. The closer you got, the more static you got.
I realized that there were two, because one was up here, and one was down here. I felt like it was a child. I pulled out my phone, hit the record button, and said, “Did we see you?” The voice said, “Yes.”
And I thought, “Done. I’m done.”
That night, I went home, and I’m thinking, “What am I going to do? Literally, what am I going to do?” So I’m sitting there, thinking, and scrolling through Facebook. Some friends are there in Rhode Island, south of where I am. I’m in Massachusetts, in the Boston area. They’re south, and they’re in the woods doing this ghost walk, or whatever they were doing, I don’t even know, but they were on live. So I listened, and they had a spirit box, and the box said, “Where’s Scott?”
And he said, “Oh, Scott’s not here tonight. What’s your name?” “This is David.”
I’m like, “I think I’ve officially lost my mind.” I just can’t really understand now.
I had started recording everything for a while because I felt like, “If I can hear it and you can hear it, I’m not crazy.” I can rule out mental illness. If you can’t hear it, I’ve got a big problem, right? But people could hear it, so I felt better. However, I was thinking, “Okay, so I’m not crazy, but I might be possessed.” I’m not sure that’s better.
I didn’t know what to do exactly. So I went, and along the way, I met this woman. She is a medium. She’s not a practicing medium. She doesn’t work in it. She has a regular job. She just has some gifts and abilities.
I called her up and said, “Janelle, I need some help. I’ve got this spirit after me.” She got back to me and said, “I don’t think it’s everywhere you go is haunted,” because that’s what I thought—like, everywhere I’m going is haunted. But she said, “No, it’s that they’re there for you, not for the building.”
Again, not helping. That didn’t make me feel any better, but she’s the one who ultimately told me that I was a medium. And of course, I said, “No, I’m not. That’s crazy.” I saw the movie Ghost with Whoopi Goldberg. “I know what a medium looks like. I saw it on TV.” She says, “That’s not how it looks. This is how it looks.”
She says, “I’m pretty convinced, but don’t take my word for it. I’m going to introduce you to this woman. Her name is Joy. Joy is a shaman. She’s a healer. She’s a medium. She will work with you.”
And honestly, I’m embarrassed to say—I mean, Joy is a wonderful person, and now I’m so grateful for everything she did for me. But at the time, I thought she was full of baloney. It wasn’t anything I truly believed in. I thought it was just a bunch of hogwash.
So she kept saying, “Just humor me. Just humor me, because I need to teach you to shut this off.” The things she was teaching me to shut it off just felt like nonsense to me, but as soon as I said okay and went with it, and agreed to practice, I’m not talking about paid readings. I’m talking about just bringing people in that you don’t know, like friends of friends kind of thing, and see what you get. And tell them the first thing that comes off the top of your head, and see what they understand.
As soon as I started to do that, it literally stopped. It was as if they just wanted to get my attention, and when they got my attention, that was it. They just stopped. But yet, here I am thinking, “I’m making things up,” and I’m not. Nowadays, I recognize the difference between what’s mine and what’s theirs, but I didn’t always, and so it was wild to me.
Then I kept thinking, “Well, what else can I do? How else can I use this? Can I remote view? Can I do psychometry?” I started taking classes. I took mediumship classes because I wanted to learn how to fine-tune what I was getting. Because it was sporadic and all over the place. It’s like being a one-year-old and learning how to drink out of a cup. When you first do it, you’ll get it, but it’s going to be like all over—you’re going to wear it. And then, when you get older and become a little more refined at it, you won’t spill it, but you’ll get a lot more information. It’s just going to be a lot more nuanced.
So that’s how it’s been for me. And that’s the summation of the journey in short form, because this was about four or five years of just working through this.
And you put this in a book, right?
I did. My book is right here. It’s called In the Presence of Light: A Funeral Director’s Journey from Mourning to Mediumship. It didn’t start out as a book. It started as a notebook, because people said you’ve got to write this stuff down. You will forget everything.
So as I started to hear things and hear voices, I would write them down. When I got the recordings, I would write them down. And then I would look back at certain things in my childhood and say, “Oh, my God, that totally makes sense now. Now I know why this happened, or I understand what that really was back in the day.”
Next thing you know, I’ve got like a couple of notebooks of this stuff, and I said, “This is really a story, and so maybe there’s somebody out there that might understand it.” And plus, it’s kind of interesting growing up, going through the funeral business, and understanding why I made those changes, those decisions, and how I ended up in the funeral business, and how things started to unravel and unfold. So it’s a story through the funeral business, but it’s also a ghost story, and then it’s a story of awakening, enlightenment, all in one book.
Yeah, wonderful. I’ve been taking notes and journaling. I actually do it as a God journal, as a gratitude journal to God. I’ve got so many incredible stories, just so many things, messages and stuff that come in coincidences that are beyond coincidental. Getting messages and confirming them is a fun thing that hadn’t happened to me before, until recently, in 2021, when everything lit up for me. One interesting experience I had was hearing something in the background while reading the same thing.
That’s fun. At the exact same moment, you read a word and it’s an unusual word, and you hear it in the background, like in a podcast or something that’s not about the same topic. That’s wild. The first time that happened to me, I was like, “Wow, that’s cool.” That’s weird. I didn’t make anything of it. And then, of course, because I wasn’t taking it seriously, it happened again five minutes later with a different issue.
Did you hear it in real time, or did you hear the exact moment? Wow.
Well, I mean, it was a recorded podcast I was listening to. Still, at the moment that I am reading the word in a book on Kindle or something, I’m actually hearing that exact same word in an unrelated podcast in the background. Then I dismiss it, not taking it seriously, and then it happens again five minutes later. Then I take it seriously, and it leads me down this incredible rabbit hole where I get all these cryptocurrency predictions and all these other things from a particular psychic. That’s for another story.
We have to be careful. It’s not just entities that haven’t crossed our low vibration.
But anyway, that all started because I noticed, and I didn’t just dismiss it, because it happened twice in five minutes. Then I started trying to put the puzzle pieces together, arranging them in a way that made sense to me. That led me down a rabbit hole, which was quite a ride for about eight or ten months anyway. One other thing I wanted to point out and get your take on is this idea of getting a smell that no one else can pick up, and it’s related to the soul trying to communicate with you.
You mentioned at the funeral home that you sometimes smelled cologne, and then you mentioned the lady who lived 100 years ago, who had a very strong French perfume that was overpowering for you. One thing I learned, actually, through Kabbalah classes is that the olfactory sense is the one sense that the dark side cannot manipulate. We can get wrong messages, and we can get misled by the opponent, the other side, but not with olfactory, they’re not able to interfere with that. They’re not able to manipulate and fool us with that. I don’t know if you’ve heard that before.
I’ve not heard that before. I think it’s fascinating. The first time it happened, I thought it was because I was sitting there with a family making funeral arrangements, and I heard the door open and close, followed by the scent of cologne. I don’t even know if it was cologne or if it just smelled like an older person’s hair tonic or something similar. The son got up and walked out into the hall with me. We opened the door, and there was nobody outside. There was nobody outside. There was nobody in the parking lot. There was nobody on the street. It was just empty. But I had said, “Hello, hello.”
He smelled it too?
No, but he heard the door open.
All right, okay, so you got the extra hint from the other side, from the soul that was trying to communicate.
I remember being with my cousin once we were alone, and the door was locked. We’re in the house. All of a sudden, I heard, “Hello.” We both looked at each other. I said, “You heard that?” She says, “I heard it.” But there was nobody there. There was nobody in the house, and no one was outside. But it was like coming right from the room. It’s interesting, and I’d love to touch on the point you mentioned about the dark side. I’m a believer in all of that, and I think we have to be careful. We have to protect ourselves. We have to be cautious.
But not just Ouija boards. We have to be careful. It’s not just entities that haven’t crossed our low vibration. The dark side is definitely low vibration, and you want to make sure that you’re not doing what I might consider low vibration activities. This is why I don’t drink when I do mediumship. I don’t drink anyway, but occasionally, I’ll have a glass of wine or something. But I would never do that when I’m reading. I would never do anything if you’re not a nice person, and you’re intentionally hurting people; that’s very low vibration. What do you think you’re going to attract? Because you’re down here, you’re going to attract, you have to be up here. You have to be there for the good of people.
Like attracts like.
Whenever I do a reading, it’s not about me; it’s about creating a connection to help heal grief.
Like attracts like, I also think, “What is your intention in all of this?” Every once in a while, I’ll get someone who’ll throw Bible verses at me. Look, I respect everyone’s belief in religion or whatever, but I will say this: I can’t imagine anything of the darkness that is that low is going to allow so much kindness and healing to take place. That is my intention. Whenever I do a reading, it’s not about me, it’s not about making myself look amazing. It’s not about any of that.
It’s about creating a connection to help heal grief, to give people that little extra boost of confidence that there’s something beyond this world, especially if they’ve lost someone they love. It doesn’t make the pain go away, but it does give them that little extra boost of something. It’s all about the goodness. What is the reason behind it? Because if you’re doing it for the right reason, you’re connecting with people who are in this space, you’re not connecting with people down here. We have to be very careful about what our reasons are, and we have to be very careful with whom we’re trying to connect.
Yeah, for sure. Like you mentioned, you don’t drink while giving readings. It reminded me that something I understood about drinking is that somebody who was an alcoholic in the physical form, and they haven’t fully crossed over, and they still have that craving, they will attach to somebody who is drinking, so that they can have that experience. You will have a hitchhiker on you if you’re not careful, if you go to a bar, and then there’s some spirits in there who haven’t crossed over, who are craving that feeling, that addiction, then they might attach to you.
You’re not strong enough in that space that you’re in to be able to fend it off and say, “No.” I have been in places that I know are haunted, and sometimes I can feel them around me, and I will very audibly say, “You’re not allowed within this space. You’re not allowed to touch me. I’m not going to have a conversation with you.” It’s not a good idea to connect with those. Yeah, it just isn’t. It just isn’t. Even when I’m done with my readings, I close it off. We’ve created this, and they don’t want to be with me.
They’re in the light, right? It’s like tuning into a radio station, maybe like a dog whistle. It’s a frequency that not everyone can hear. That’s what it feels like. I’m not going home and saying, “Come on back. Let’s have dinner. Let’s have a chat.” However, there are people who live in homes that are haunted, and they become, for lack of a better word, friends with these spirits. That’s not a good idea. You just don’t want to let that in, because you don’t know who they are.
You’re the average of the five people you hang around with the most, so they say. And if you’re hanging around with low vibration spirits and you’re having conversations with them, that’s going to rub off.
Of course, it is, so you have to be careful. You have to protect yourself. But the mediums that I know, that I work with, that I associate with, are good God fearing individuals who, and I won’t use the word Christian, because some are Jewish. There are some Christians among them. We come from all walks of life. But the goal, the purpose, is to serve the spirit for the sake of the person who’s here.
It’s a sort of spirit about the infinite, the Creator, all that is.
The Creator. To serve God, you know exactly, and it’s the point of it. And without that, what’s the point? Without that, there is no point.
There are two ways of being in the world. I read this in a book channeled by Peter Maxwell Slattery called The Book of Shi-ji, and it states that you’re either in service mode or in self-service mode. All kinds of bad side effects happen when you’re in self-service mode. And it’s not going to help you with your karma, your mission, or anything, including your connection to God. Being in self-service mode is not beneficial, but when you’re in service mode, all these miraculous things can happen. I remember interviewing Karen Noé.
She’s a famous psychic medium. One amazing story she had was about a family member, I think it was a father, who had hidden money in the house somewhere. When he passed away, they couldn’t find it anywhere. They tore the whole house upside down. It was a lot of money, and Karen was able to connect with him and find out that the money was in the attic, in a certain corner, behind the pink insulation in the wall. And of course, there it was.
It is so funny, because if you said to me, “Hey, I lost my ring,” you know, it doesn’t work that way. If they want you to find it, they’ll give me something that’ll point you in the right direction. But it’s not like, “Okay, go up to your bedroom at the top of the stairs, turn right. There’s a closet behind.” It doesn’t work that way. It isn’t like that. And if I lose my ring, it’s gone forever. I can’t do anything for myself. It’s all about other people. That’s why I don’t win the lottery. That’s why none of that stuff is real. It’s not about that. It’s about being in the service of others. Quite frankly, that’s really all it is.
Amazing. You mentioned you’d learned other psychic abilities, psychometry, and remote viewing. You practiced these. Did you get really good at certain things, or was that just kind of an experiment? What happened there?
Some of the stuff happened accidentally, and I don’t do things that can’t be verified. This is not a judgment against anyone else for any other services they may provide. However, there are people who provide, let’s say, past life readings. People will do those. That’s fine. If that’s the interest somebody’s interested in. I don’t do it because you can’t validate it. I can tell you, “Oh yeah, in a past life, you lived in France.” Okay, that’s just fine and dandy.
Hey, how did you know?
Yeah, unless you have a recollection, you know? It’s so funny, though, unless you can validate that, I think it’s pointless for me to do that again. That’s not a judgment for anybody else, because you may have found something that resonates with that. But I think for me, that’s the standard, if you can validate.
You know what just occurred to me is that you can validate things that are normally not validatable, and here’s how. According to Carl Jung, synchronicity occurs when the outer world and the inner world are in synchrony. So if you are thinking about something, and at that very moment something is happening in the external world, that’s a synchronicity. I’m thinking of a word, and I hear it at the same moment, that same word on a podcast in the background, that’s synchronicity.
You could validate that by saying, “Hey, whatever you’re thinking about right now, please write it down, and I’m going to tell you what I’m getting, and then you can show me afterwards what you wrote on the paper, but I’m not even going to see that you’re writing. Just hide. I can’t even see that you’re moving the pen, and go ahead and write it down.” That’s a way to validate and get stuff like, it’s no coincidence that one of my most meaningful past lives was in France, and you just kind of said that off the cuff.
Well, nothing is random. Absolutely nothing in this universe is random. It’s like it’s a movie set. You don’t go to a movie set and find random things that were just showing up on the set, like on the bedroom side table? Did somebody put that book there on the side table? No, it just showed up randomly, just out of nowhere. No, it was placed there. It was very purposefully placed. That’s how this universe works. So that’s my understanding.
You are 100% correct. Those are the little moments that I love, and sometimes it’ll happen to me at a reading with a name. It’ll just come to me, but using the past lives as an example, and that is a synchronicity, and those are the moments that I love. However, I wasn’t trying to do a past-life reading. Do you know what I mean? Because if I sat with you to do that, I would have to have a lot more detail than that. Not a judgment, but I also think that there was something, “Oh, it’s a senior moment.” Blonde and gray is a bad combination. It just kind of came together at the same time. I don’t know; we were talking about something I was going to say.
You can ask God to pop it back in your head. That works great for me.
“Please, pop a bag in my head.”
“Oh, I know what it was. Thank you, God.”
“I see that it was this. There it is.”
Some people live in homes that are haunted, and they become “friends” with these spirits. That’s not a good idea. You don’t want to let that in, because you don’t know who they are.
We talked about things that I’ve learned by accident along the way, and one of them was psychometry. I was doing a public demonstration in the state of Indiana, which is quite away from here, but I brought through this woman who passed, and I think I got her grandmother or something like that, and then this woman comes up to me and says, “You know, I was hoping my friend would come through. You didn’t mention her.” Sometimes it’s hard to get everybody. “I have her sweatshirt? Would you hold it and see if anything comes to you?”
Now, I had never done anything like this before, ever. That’s psychometry, right? When you hold an object and you can read the energy off of it, I said, “You know what? I don’t know if I can do it, but I’ll try.” And it was one of those, as we just did, “If you have anything to share with me, this would be a good time, right?” So I held on to the sweatshirt, and it was as if I were watching it on TV. It was incredible. I gave her whatever it is that I gave her, and she said, “Oh, my God. That’s unbelievable.”
That is something that I can use as a tool, but it’s not something that I say I’m going to add to my menu and say, “Oh, now I can do psychometry,” because I did that. “Everybody, bring me your objects.” I don’t do that. I was given that to help that lady. That doesn’t mean that I’m going to be given it every single time I sit down with a person and hold their ring, their Bible, their book, whatever it is. That’s just how I kind of operate. I know what I’m capable of when I sit down and I read, they give me things. Sometimes I’m not even aware they’re giving it to me. Sometimes I say things that just sort of pop out.
Where did that come from? Like, France. Why that? Why not some other thing? Sometimes it’s mannerisms. I remember going, “Oh, my God, my mother used to do that all the time.” She would sit there with her beads and just kind of stroke her feet. She had a necklace. I don’t know why. These are the kinds of moments that happen in a reading that you just can’t experience most of the time. I don’t even know what I’m getting, and I’ll forget it within a day of being done with it. I won’t remember that afternoon. I won’t remember most of it, because it’s not coming to me. It’s just passing through.
Meaningful for you. It’s meaningful for them, and so retaining it is unnecessary clutter for you.
Well, it is. Quite frankly, you see so much heartache sometimes, and I don’t necessarily want to. One of the things I’ve noticed is that I don’t even know if it’s because I always say I don’t predict anything. I’m not a fortune teller. I don’t predict things, but I don’t get anything health-related for anybody. I don’t want to know that. I don’t know when people are going to be sick or die. That’s not my thing. I don’t even know if it’s possible, but I don’t even want to approach it. I’ve had people say to me, “Oh, my brother’s not well. Is he going to make it?” I don’t know. I’m not God. I can’t give you that information. We all walk along the same path together, so we’ve got to keep it real.
When you said that, you saw it like it was on TV. When you held that sweatshirt, did you have visions of what would happen if you opened your eyes and the image was still superimposed on the background? That has happened to me. I opened my eyes and saw not in an after-image, but in the correct colors. It slowly faded away, the very high-definition image that had been placed in my mind. I still saw it. It wasn’t just placed in my mind. In other words, it was placed on my visual cortex because I saw it as an afterimage with the correct colors, not inverted colors, that slowly faded away against the background of the bedroom. That was wild. I’m not sure if anything like that has happened to you.
That’s fascinating and exceedingly rare. Now there have been moments I’ve sort of caught it out of the corner of my “Oh, there’s somebody right there,” and then I can feel it right, I know. But what you’re talking about is exceedingly rare. I don’t usually sit with my eyes closed when I do a reading. I might when I’m meditating, just kind of close my eyes, but not when I’m doing a reading. When I’m doing a reading, I’m engaged with the person. But that stuff still pops in, but it’s the mind’s eye. It’s in my awareness. It’s in the visual, like in here, you just kind of imagine and describe to someone.
Well, here’s how I describe it. I say, “Imagine a pink elephant in your mind’s eye.” That’s how I normally get stuff that’s sent clairvoyantly.
Before we got on, I was talking to you about my pink elephant at home. “I have a pink elephant statue. I have a stuffed pink elephant.” Now you’re getting a pink elephant, right? How do we know that you’re getting it because you remembered it from our conversation, or they’re giving it to you? That’s one of the things. You’ll hear mediums say, “Don’t tell me anything. I’m better off when I don’t know anything. Don’t embellish. Don’t give me any extra things. All I need is validation, because then it’s very difficult to discern.” Now I’m seeing the pink elephant, but am I seeing it because you were just telling me about it a few minutes ago, and now I’m remembering it, or am I seeing it because they’re giving it to me? That for me is sometimes difficult.
Yes, one thing I find helpful and use is emojis. I’m not sure if it’s a shortcut or something, but I don’t know how I came across this. In your mind’s eye, imagine, for example, a thumbs up or a green check mark or red X. These sorts of symbols that maybe you and the Creator agree upon can then be short codes. So, you’re in the middle of a conversation with somebody, and most of your attention is on them. It’s hard to have a simultaneous conversation with the upper worlds or with some soul who’s disembodied. If you can just get a simple yes or no, with a thumbs up or a green check or a red X, or whatever. That’s an easy way to keep two conversations going simultaneously: the main one in the physical and then the one that you’re also having in the non-physical.
Psychics tune into the energy around you to provide insight into upcoming events.
I love that. When I teach some of this stuff, and I don’t teach that often, but one of the things I’ll have people do is we’ll create a “library of symbols.” What does it mean for you? What do you want to see when something’s a big no? Do you get the red X, or do you get thumbs up? It’s sort of surreal, but what does red feel like to you? What does the color red mean? Does it mean love? Does it mean pain?
Does it mean any number of things? But what does it mean for you? When you’re sitting there, and your spirit gives you red. I’m just getting red. Is it red furniture? Does that mean it’s a no? Is the red for no, or does it mean that’s love? That’s what we’re going to get, because I love that. You’ve got to know how to interpret because it really is a game of charades, quite frankly, pictionary charades.
Now, some people don’t understand the difference between a medium and a psychic. Can you quickly define that?
Yeah, sure. Let’s start by saying there are psychics and there are mediums. All mediums are psychic, but not all psychics are mediums. Psychics tune into the energy around you so they can tell you about events. They’ll get intuition on what’s happening with your job, what’s happening with your love life, and what’s happening with whatever it is that you want to know about. But they’re not getting messages from your guides, from your loved ones, in spirit, they usually use things like tarot cards, dowsing, rods, pendulums, whatever it might be that helps them get the answers that they’re looking for.
Now, mediums are still psychic. They can still do that, but they take it. They’re just one level above, whereas they’re able to receive messages from loved ones, spirits, guides, and so forth. As a medium, when I do a psychic reading, I don’t need cards. If somebody wants me to, I’ll use them more or less just as a backup, but I get the information right from the source. Basically, what are your guides telling me?
Then you can hear it, inner hearing, right?
I don’t hear as much as I do any other. It’s probably the least used or the most underutilized. clair- that I have, my clairaudience, but I do get it from time to time. Mostly, it’s a lot of I just know is an awareness, or it’s a visual thing that I see. “Oh, they just showed me this.” Whatever that means.
That’s clairvoyance, and then claircognizance is the knowingness that’s kind of in your bones, like you just knew it. It’s like an instantaneous download.
Mediums are still psychic. They’re just one level above, whereas they’re able to receive messages from loved ones, spirits, guides, and so forth.
It’s an instant. It’s like in a millisecond. Clairgustance refers to the sense of taste, so I don’t experience that one as often. That’s very rare. That’s probably the least of all of them. I don’t know what it is when you smell that, it’s another clairsalience or something like that. Yes, there’s clairsentience, which, for me, feels right, but it can also refer to emotions. So, sometimes it’s hard to explain, but I’ll say, “Geez, I feel grateful, or I feel sad, or I feel elated or fortunate,” or whatever the case may be. You’ll get that feeling, but it can also be physical. I’ll have a physical awareness of my elbow or my knee, or they’re bringing an awareness to my heart. I know I’m dealing with something here.
Yes, clairsalience is the psychic sense of smell.
Yes, one that people don’t talk about much is proprioception, which is sort of your relationship to the world around you. In other words, if you closed your eyes and you were floating in the room, you would know whether you were upright or lying down, or your body kind of tells you that there are some times and some ways that might fall into reading. I wish I could give you an example right now. I’m trying to think of that, but there are some times that that can come into play, but it’s really about your relationship to the world around you. I couldn’t think of a specific example, but that’s one of the other clairs- that’s there too. It’s very, very rare.
What experiences have you had, if any, in trance mediumship?
Personally, none. I am not a trance medium. I don’t know if trance mediumship is another “gift ability,” or if it’s something that can be learned. I’ve heard you can put yourself in that space, not something I’ve ever been super comfortable doing. I don’t think I want to have anybody just take over. The people that I’ve spoken with feel the same way. You are sort of opening yourself up to whatever comes in, and you can’t do it alone, because there’s no one to help you get back out of it, does it? Can you be stuck that way? I don’t know. I’m not comfortable with that at all. But I know people do it. I have no experience with it, and I’d seen what looks like trance mediumship. But again, is it real? I don’t know. I’ve seen it on YouTube, and stuff like that. I’ve never seen it in person. I don’t know
Well, not everyone is legit. That’s the thing. Edgar Cayce, I do believe he was legit. And he was probably the most famous trance medium.
Tony Stockwell was doing it, too.
Oh, right. I’ve got an audio CD of him or two that is really good. Cool. I know we’re getting close to time. I do have a couple of more quick questions. Maybe you can do a little lightning round here for the last couple of minutes. Have you ever had angels following you, and were you aware of it?
No, not that I’m aware of, I have to be tuned in. And usually if I’m tuned in, I’m aware, but if I’m just walking around, then I’m kind of like, not in the zone.
Have you seen angels?
Not personally, not with my eyes, anyway, that I’m aware of.
You mentioned earlier that you teach people how to shut it off, such as psychic sensing, so that they’re not bombarded when they don’t want it. Is there a quick shortcut to do that, or is that more than we have the time to get explained?
Proprioception is sort of your relationship to the world around you.
I’ll give you two things. I feel like it’s intention-based, right? When I sit right here in this room, in front of this computer, and I have a client in front of me, you can talk to me. This is also true when I’m standing in front of a room or sitting across from someone, and my intention is to deliver messages. You can talk to me. When I’m shopping, when I’m home watching TV, when I’m with my son, when I’m sleeping, leave me alone. That is really the intention that I put out there.
The woman who helped me really did what she did, and I think this is part of what I thought was so silly, but she’s like, “Put your hand out. You’re going to change the TV, right? There’s a knob. There’s a channel. You just turn it all the way off. Now it’s off, turn it all the way on, and it’s on.” You probably want to be somewhere around four or five regularly, so that’s how she got it. But it was really not so much about the knob as it was about firming up that intention so that they understand what my office hours are.
That’s cool. One last question: What happened to David?
It’s in the book for those who want to know.
Ended on a cliffhanger.
The day was plugged. No, actually, I will tell you. I’ll tell you quickly: my next-door neighbor is a medium, and I didn’t know it, and this is all part of it. But one day, I got out of my car, and we started talking about something, and I came to find out that she’s a media person. She invited me up and said to me, “Who’s one of the three?” And I said, “Nobody. I’m one of two. My mother was one of two. My father’s like one of nine.” She said, “No, it’s you, one of you, one of three.” I said, “I’m not, no.” “Well, didn’t mother ever lose a child?” And I said, “Not that I’m aware of,” but you know, she was pretty open book.
So, yeah, here come the goosebumps. That’s right.
Yeah, here comes the goose bumps. She says, “Well, then who’s the D name? Who’s David?” and I almost fell off.
He was your brother, and he was an absorbed sibling.
Did I tell you this already, or do your job?
I remember we had a conversation.
I am not a trance medium. I’m not sure if trance mediumship is another “gift ability” or if it’s something that can be learned.
Oh, we had a conversation.
We had a conversation, and I got this message that I was meant to share with you. Amy Jo Ellis, who came up with, or channeled, the full court of atonement. She was a guest on this podcast. She has a blog post about absorbed sibling court of atonement, rectification, things that you can do, and I’m pretty sure I sent it to you. Do you recall this?
Absolutely, yes. I remember we had the conversation, too. I do remember that now that you’re talking about Amy Jo and the court of atonement.
If you hadn’t read that out loud, the court of atonement statement in that blog post, I would do it because it really can. I had an absorbed sibling, and I didn’t know it. This cleared some stuck energy for me. So it might be helpful, if not to you, then to David, or both of you, or maybe it’s just unnecessary, because it was already all healed and resolved. But it won’t hurt. I don’t think. So, why not?
Won’t hurt, and I believe he stuck with me, and was there to just say, “Okay, it’s time to wake up.” And this is further proof of that.
It’s good to just resolve things and let go and let God. Sometimes, all it takes is just an acknowledgement. Well, this was fabulous. How does somebody work with you? How does somebody get a reading from you?
My website is mediumscottallan.com, and as you can see at the bottom, you can book a reading with me there. I do readings with people literally all over the world. I’m in Boston, but I’ve read for people in Australia, Hawaii, all over the US and Canada, as well as in Europe. So you can do it. I use Zoom so that you can set your readings there.
My book is available anywhere. Books are sold on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Goodreads, and wherever. And it’s called In the Presence of Light: A Funeral Director’s Journey from Mourning to Mediumship. For those who are in my area, people are listening from the New England area. Come to one of my live events. I also participate in a variety of public and private events, which are similar to my public appearances, but tailored for the individuals you invite. I love hearing from you and helping you along your journey.
All right. Well, thank you, Scott. This was really quite a ride. Really enjoyed this conversation and hearing all your incredible stories. You’re really engaging, fascinating, open, sharing, and vulnerable, and I really appreciate that. I’m sure our listener does too.
I hope so. Thanks so much for having me, it was a real pleasure.
Yes, thank you, listener. Get out and make it a great day, and spread your light, and we’ll catch you in the next episode. I’m your host, Stephan Spencer, signing off.
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