Tap Into Your Inner Healing Wisdom with Nichole Kuechle

In this Episode

• [02:33]Nichole Kuechle reveals her origin story and her early knowing about becoming a doctor, recounting her mother’s cancer battle that exposed the disconnect between medical problems and solutions, igniting her lifelong mission to bridge that gap.
• [09:42]Stephan asks about how Nichole discovered muscle testing, acknowledging the potential pushback from medical practitioners who might consider it pseudoscience.
• [13:54]The pivotal question: when did Nichole first realize she could tap into information beyond the physical realm?
• [18:57]Muscle testing demystified: Nichole breaks down the ring lock technique, transforming abstract concepts into practical, testable methods anyone can learn.
• [24:09]Nichole unveils her mission to transform mothers into confident home healthcare providers armed with simple, powerful tools
• [27:29]Mother’s intuition meets scientific structure as Stephan validates the power of trusting inner knowing, while Nichole introduces tuning forks as an alternative pathway to the same wisdom.
• [28:29]The magic of craniosacral therapy unveiled: tissue unwinding, remote healing, and quantum entanglement that defies conventional understanding of physical limitations.
• [34:21]Three generations, one healing journey: Nichole reveals why working with mothers, grandmothers, and children simultaneously creates the most profound transformations.
• [39:01]Connect with Nichole: your gateway to muscle testing mastery and family healing transformation.

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Nichi, it’s so great to have you on the show. 

Thanks for having me. Good to be back. 

We have known each other for a long time. Wasn’t it Sachin who introduced us?

I think so. That’s at least four years ago.

Who has been on the podcast as well. Let’s start with your origin story. How did you end up working with babies? How did you end up getting into muscle testing? You have quite a hero’s journey that I think our listeners would be very interested to hear.

It’s so funny because I think the rendition of that story changes. I just evolved in more of my own becoming, and very, very recently, I recalled that I had this doctor t-shirt, like a long sleeping t-shirt, as a kid. I was probably 10 or 11 years old when someone gave it to me, because it was a known fact that I was going to be a doctor. By the age of 10, I knew I was going to be a doctor. It’s so funny that I’m not, and I’m certain I was in a past life. 

In some ways, I get to doctor without doctoring, which I feel extremely lucky for this doctor t-shirt I slept in until it was threadbare. I probably slept into it for seven years or so, to a point where it actually fit me like a normal t-shirt. I think part of why I’ve ended up where I am is the intuitive things I acquired, really between the ages of 10 and 12. We knew nobody, Stephan, who lived their lives the way we live now; it was a norm for me to take any of my siblings to the pediatrician at any given time. 

I knew how to go to the pharmacy. I knew how to pick up their meds. I knew to administer their very flavored antibiotic, which came in those little spoon scoops, where I would say, “One for you and then one for me,” because it tasted good. I had no idea the detriment that I was causing myself outside of the 36 rounds of antibiotics that I actually know came into my own body in my childhood, up to the age of about 23. 

Fast forward to the sophomore year of high school, and my mom was diagnosed with Hodgkin lymphoma. She is still with us, but that caused years and years of physical issues, disease, and an early 40s heart attack for her. I remember just sitting back watching all of this, and none of it made sense. I don’t think watching loved ones go through hardship ever makes sense, but I couldn’t relate to the “Here’s the problem, here’s the help, or here’s the solution.” It was like two ships passing in the night. 

So even at 16, when I would sit in her oncology office with her and the doctor would say, “You’re finally in remission. Here is this sort of laundry list of things to be mindful of, to be aware of.” The frustrating thing for me, Stephan, was that he was giving her a list of full-blown disease states, not fluid retention, foggy brain, or low energy. The things that would have her go, “Oh, you know, something doesn’t feel right. I should go to my doctor.” 

How do you know that you’ve got breast cancer? How do you know that you’re in a diseased state unless someone tells you? That was a really frustrating thing for me to watch. I was teaching in Seattle last weekend. And what often happens to me now is that I’ll be in the middle of teaching something, and it will be part science, and then I’ll think, “and then there’s the art.” So it’s like, I’m teaching the science, and the art is flowing through as shared wisdom. 

All of a sudden, I will be taken back 30-plus years, and I’ll have a really poignant childhood moment. It actually gets me a little moved, because it’s like I go back into that little body of mine, which, at the time, was more like a thought. It was like, “This isn’t right.” But I can’t put my finger on why the situation isn’t right. And then I’ll be teaching, and it lands in my adult body, and I can go right back to that moment at 9 or 12, or anywhere in between. 

For example, holding this tiny little baby because back then, we would be in charge of five children under the age of 6, at the age of 10, right? You would never do that now these days, in parting babysitters with that much responsibility. But I remember being handed this sweet little baby bundle, and I remember band aids on each of her thighs, and I remember she was hot, like she was running a fever. She had a clear, runny nose. 

Her body’s clearly trying to detox what had gone into her body earlier in the day. There were three other toddlers running around, and the mom handed me this baby. Of course, I love the baby: a good snuggle and making them feel safe. But everything in me was like, 

“Why are you leaving this baby with me? This doesn’t feel right.”

The answer was like, “Oh, she had her shots today.” 

The doctor said to give her whatever it was, like Motrin or baby Tylenol, and she’ll feel fine. I didn’t know anything different. We got our childhood shots on schedule when we were kids. It’s that uneasiness, it’s that “something doesn’t feel right here, and I just don’t know what that is.” And then to come back around 30 some years later, having seen vaccine injury, having seen that the ailments that are really showing up in our children that wouldn’t if we weren’t in such a toxic world, and if we weren’t putting those toxins into our bodies and absorbing them through our skin. 

So it’s just these moments that continue to show up over and over again that have me realize, “Man, there’s no question about whether or not I’m in the right place.” There’s no question about what I am here to do. 

Muscle testing just became part of the conversation inside of you know, if I knew one more bio individual, tid bit, one nugget of information that just let me in the things that I could support that body in doing, the guidance that I could provide, the education around mitochondrial dysfunction, Lyme, whatever it is, empowers the person over there to live a different way, absorb more information, and make different or better choices. 

It’s fascinating to me that I’ll be 50 in a year, having had many epiphanies about how I want to live out the last half of my life, and getting so much intuitive, innately foreign information just pouring out of me. This is my experience. 

I’m like, “Oh, so we spent the first half of my life seeking,” and as I’m moving into the second half of my life, it’s just oozing out of my pores, and there’s no trying, and there’s no EFFORTING, like in all capital letters. There’s no more enduring. There’s no more over-functioning. It’s like ease, which feels like such an incredible gift.

How did you come across muscle testing? Because many medical practitioners would call that woo-woo or pseudoscience or whatever, and they probably got some pushback from some of your colleagues, or maybe even family or friends. I’m curious how that evolved.

It’s fascinating to me that I’ll be 50 in a year, having had many epiphanies about how I want to live out the last half of my life, and getting so much intuitive, innately foreign information just pouring out of me.

That evolved early. I had turned 20, and I was here outside of Minneapolis, taking at the time what was like their most comprehensive massage and body work program. That’s when I was introduced to it from a structural perspective. If you want to go deeply into the structure and know where in the body to start. This was a tool that they taught us. 

But the truth, though, is I began to use it, but I put it down as quickly as I picked it up, because I could also just stand at the end of the table and hold somebody’s feet in my hands, and close my eyes and have this little skeleton light up in front of me with little X’s and little arrows being very energetically tuned in and connected. Then, I began to use muscle testing as the validation for what my intuition was telling me, versus using the muscle test to find out what area of the body goes weak, i.e., start at the shoulders or the neck or whatever first. 

That was really, really interesting. By the time I was probably 26, I had been connected to a chiropractor out of Chicago who was testing me virtually. I would call him up and say, “Here’s the deal. We’d have a very brief, 1520-minute conversation.” Three days later, a few supplements would land on my doorstep, and I would take them, and they would handle all the things that were there. 

He and I developed such a great relationship that if I were doing some cranial sacral work on a baby, and a rough, traumatic birth, blood transfusion and pregnancy, all kinds of stuff, I could feel the viscosity of the tissue. It would be sticky. It would be “jarry.” What I mean by that is when you try to take a lid off of a jar of salsa, and you feel it, feel it, feel it, and then you feel it pop. It’s like waiting for the pop, waiting for the release. But the release would never happen. 

And so, if things didn’t go as I expected they would with experience within a few different visits with this baby, I would call Randy, and inevitably, I would get his voicemail. I would be like, “I’ve got this 14-week-old, but here’s what’s going on, and I can’t figure it out.” 

Instead of calling me back for a conversation, he would leave me a voicemail that says, “Well, you’re never going to be able to clear this unless you get that hiatal hernia released first.” He could see so clearly. I would go and do the thing, and it would completely handle it. So there was this immediate, first of all, like, energetic reciprocity, making me write for my intuitive knowledge and understanding and beliefs, and then being able to capture that energetic infusion, if you will, of like, here’s what I see from here in making that difference over here, in that baby and have it be just an overnight win, which was just incredible. 

So, fast forward to a year later, becoming a mom, it was normal to me to bring my children to someone who did muscle testing. And it’s funny, too. Nobody had to suggest this as an idea for me to consider or try on. It’s just like what I did. They went there before we even went to a pediatrician. We even went to a board-certified holistic pediatrician. 

They took a couple of courses and had the experience of, “I don’t know what I’m doing here at the pediatrician, because I’m learning more about my baby’s health and well-being from my village, from my tribe.” This good friend, who was an L&D nurse for 35 years, this set of chiropractors and a functional medicine naturopathic physician, very quickly realized that’s not where I was getting my support. 

To raise my children meant bringing muscle testing in, not just for the structural stuff and not just for the toxic load, but what are they dealing with on an energetic level, so to speak.

To raise my children meant bringing muscle testing in, not just for the structural stuff and not just for the toxic load, but what are they dealing with on an energetic level, so to speak. 

So there must have been a time, some sort of incident, when you were really young. Maybe it was older, childhood or something, but you had a moment where you recognized that I’m able to receive information from the field or from the quantum realm or from the ethereal realm. It must have had some sort of validation about that. Like, this is real. This isn’t just craziness or me making stuff up.

Two things come to mind. One, something around the age of seven, but I don’t know what it is, and I can’t pinpoint a particular memory or a particular happening, but it feels so right that by the age of seven, I had this definite inner knowing, kind of being divinely guided. But when I was 12, it fully landed for me in terms of a knowing, which was on a beautiful fall evening. We went to sleep that night with our windows open in the house, and at some point during the night, our household fire alarm went off. The smoke alarms went off, which is a jarring sound. 

We all did what we did, all four of us kids, ran to the front door. The agreement was always to meet at the mailbox if there were ever a house fire. But we all got to the front door, as both of my parents kind of got to the top of the stairs. My dad said, “Hold on, you guys, I don’t actually think there’s a fire here, and our host wasn’t very big.” My dad ran around really quickly. 

He’s like, “Yeah, there’s no fire. But, here’s the deal. I can smell someone burning leaves, and our smoke alarms were sensitive enough to pick that up.” 

And Stephan from that literal second hour day forward, I think it jogged something in my nervous system, because I became wide open. Memories started to come back of my childhood that weren’t necessarily welcome, but important. I could start to see things in the night, energetic footsteps in my bedroom, like boot prints. I could see silhouettes. 

It’s really funny when I do this sort of full-circle piece, telling people that I speak a language, and it’s called muscle testing. It’s literal because it’s so divinely guided.

And also, what came with that—this took me until I was probably in my 30s to be able to say this out loud; this sounds bizarre—I see pictures, and they would come in through my right ear, and then see words across my forehead. It’s really funny when I do this sort of full-circle piece, telling people that I speak a language, and it’s called muscle testing. It’s literal because it’s so divinely guided. It’s so right there. I don’t have to think about it. 

I can reformat and re-contextualize something in at the snap of a finger to, I don’t want to say, answer a question, but to bring about an inquiry from which that client and I can stand if they’ve got a doctor saying this, or a nurse practitioner saying, “Have her muscle test the difference between this peptide and that peptide.” Well, peptides aren’t my wheelhouse, but all I need is context. 

Are we talking about the endocrine system and what is or isn’t working, and what is the potential for that optimal vitality with bringing this in? Whatever the case may be, I recognize that I wouldn’t have the capacity to serve in the way I’m serving, had my nervous system not had that little wake-up call. 

That wake up call, though, wasn’t entirely positive, as you can imagine, also with it, came this recognition that I had been living in a state of distress pretty much since my mom was pregnant with me, and that was a lot to swallow, even at the age of 12, to recognize that it didn’t seem normal. My household was safe, but it wasn’t safe where I was being brought to, if that makes sense, and nobody was aware of that. 

Having this jarred experience of this nervous system that was woken up into a space of over functioning and overdrive, and having my intuition almost like the invitation to be so open come from a jolting experience like that, versus the softening invitation that landed when I was tall, which was like, “Oh, you’re gonna have your children at home,” and like, “Oh, you’re gonna be a doctor.” And I was like, “Where is this coming from?” 

This is very clear, and it feels completely like home. What happened when I was 12 was like a jolt; it was like a deeper level of awakening. It sort of feels like this: can you have one without the other? I think so. But I now recognize that instead of me being in my most open, intuitive state, it previously only happened when I was in a state of survival and distress. Now I’m here as a state of calm, ease, and grace, which is much more enjoyable, and I get access to way more. 

Perhaps you could take a minute to explain to our listener who’s unfamiliar with muscle testing how it works and walk them through a demonstration.

Muscle testing is a method of analyzing organs, glands, systems, tissues, and other aspects of the body to identify deficiencies, imbalances, and limiting beliefs.

Simply stated, muscle testing is a method of analyzing organs, glands, systems, tissues, and other aspects of the body to identify deficiencies, imbalances, and limiting beliefs. There’s a whole world of the subconscious and mindset, which is a side that I bring, but some don’t bring that into their work. Some stay really on the physical realm of what’s going on with the organs, glands, and systems. Why are they toxic, and what are the bugs that need to be killed off? 

It’s a very functional way of looking at it, and I have a much broader understanding that we can use muscle testing, both in person and from a virtual perspective, to again, kind of bring about that balance. It’s the easiest way to put that. But in order to bring about that balance, we need to understand what’s pulling it out of balance, which can be as simple as or as complex as a limiting belief. 

A client, earlier today, just found out she’s not getting a raise for the second year in a row, and has been talking about leaving her job for a couple of years. She has also been talking about a side hustle business that she started but isn’t really doing much with. The news that she received of not getting the raise for the second year in a row was very down toned. She was just very quiet, and I could hear it. “I’m not important. I’m not being acknowledged. I’m not being validated.” 

And for her, that experience drives her further and further and further, hiding deeper and deeper and deeper inside her body, under layers and layers and layers than of growing adipose tissue, we then got to work with the mindset around shifting and bringing balance to that limiting belief, and how we do that from a distance is muscle testing then becomes just a little thing you’re doing with your hand, like different hand modes. 

So, for example, I tend to use my finger. An easier one to show to anyone who might be watching this is making a ring lock like that, and you have the experience of locking or unlocking it like that. There’s a lock and there’s an unlock. So essentially, “My name is Nichi,” that’s going to be the truth. That’s going to be a yes or a lock. “My name is Stephan.” That’s not a truth, right? So it’s going to be like a no or a weak. 

People will say, “Well, you know that, and so you’re letting go.” No. It’s really a game. It’s like that, push me, pull you. We know the truth, and we know the untruth. When people say, “I can’t get it to separate,” it’s because you’re really just trying to be Hercules in the moment and not giving yourself grace, not allowing yourself to play with your intuition and energy. So, when you’re working with someone virtually, they are usually on screen with me. Sometimes it’s just on a phone. It depends on the person, and it’s very easy to work with question statements. 

We could be talking about it in terms of a small person; I was just dealing with a seven-month-old, with FPIES. She’s having this experience of violent projectile vomiting every time Mama introduces a new food. And this is Mom eating the food, and the baby getting it through breast milk. We had to determine which foods are showing up as triggers. From a muscle testing standpoint, virtually, we can ask the question, 

“Is it banana?” 

“No.” 

“Is it strawberries?” 

“Yes.” 

You see the difference? 

“Is it oatmeal?” 

“Yes.” 

“Is it quinoa?” 

“No.” 

And very quickly, be able to build a list of what mom may need to avoid or at least moderate her intake of to support that baby. Many people associate muscle testing with supplementation, though that is true. As we look to accelerate the process, perhaps for detox, if that’s appropriate, or to build mitochondrial function, or to apply drainage supports to the body, all of these are important. I really love playing with homeopathy. 

I really love playing with cell salts. I really love playing with plants and food as medicine. I always ask people, 

“What’s your joy bringer? What’s the thing that just makes your day? Is it your warm?” 

Like, I’m cold with the AC. So, it’s having something warm in my hands that just grounds me. It allows me to focus in and do what I’m doing. Most of us are just not doing that, and what we’re doing instead is we’re scrolling, or we’re just mindlessly eating. We walk through the kitchen and just grab something, versus asking, 

“Is this hunger? Is this a true hunger? Is this food that I need right now?”

What’s really cool is you can bring muscle testing into that, if you know how to self-test.

“Am I actually hungry?” 

“No.” 

“So, what is it that I’m experiencing? Boredom?” 

“Yes.” 

“Loneliness?”

“Yes.” 

I have so much fun teaching muscle testing because of the breadth and depth of where we can take it. There’s really no limit. We are very much limited by our minds.

Now you have a free course on muscle testing, right?

We have a free course. It’s really like discovering muscle testing. We’re just kind of walking people through concept and theory, like how you would use it and where you might use it. It helps people decide whether to invest in a basic muscle testing course online, followed by the advanced course, to determine if it makes sense for them. We have found that that’s been a fun tool, because people are like, 

“Oh, okay, actually, what I got is I want to go down a different path than I thought I did.” 

My goal is to determine how we can empower mothers with at-home healthcare.

I love it. Because I don’t want to lead someone down a path that’s not right for them. And honestly, the two kinds of tracks I serve are either the mom-baby-mom-child track and the practitioner track. But sometimes she’s the same person, which is really, really fun for me, because my goal is to figure out how we can empower moms like her with at-home healthcare. 

What kind of tools can we put into her at-home toolkit that may allow her to set aside the children’s Motrin or the baby Tylenol and become more comfortable with cell salts and homeopathic remedies? What are some of the things that they can keep on hand? Why is it a good idea to have a little travel nebulizer in your medicine chest at home? Why keep food-grade hydrogen peroxide around? 

Then, to debunk the myths, I always say that walking down the aisles in your local Walgreens or CVS and thinking this is just a place for old people is not accurate. It’s also a place where you might pick up your prescriptions from a pharmacy, and realize that walking down the aisles of a drugstore is where you could pick up a coffee on a mud tit, right? You could pick up that travel nebulizer. There are tools that are very inexpensive and can be brought into your home. 

The what-ifs are that you might not need it, but once a year. But it’s not going to break the bank, and it’s going to support you and empower you, making you feel like I’ve got this. Because, as you know, being a parent to the smalls, it’s the middle of the night. It’s 1 AM or 3 AM, someone’s vomiting, or someone’s running a fever. This is very much narrowing down the big picture, like what’s happening, and the thought process. 

But it’s kind of like most of the parents I work with, they know enough to be dangerous, meaning they have the tinctures in their cabinets, right? They have the binders. They have some homeopathic remedies. But what they don’t know is whether this is a virus or a bacterium. Is this food poisoning, the flu, or something similar? I love teaching them the basics of muscle testing, which are these little hand modes they don’t even have to lay hands on their child while their child’s doing in their suffering and the moment, Mama can get grounded and quiet, ask the appropriate question, do the muscle test, and be like, “Oh my god, this is food poisoning. I know exactly what I need to do right now that lights me up. There is nothing I love more than watching a mom recognize and realize that she has the answer right here and knows what to do; she just has to tap in.

Yeah, mother’s intuition is very, very strong, and having the tools of being able to do muscle testing or some other kind of modality to tune into that in a structured way is really, really helpful.

Muscle testing is just one of the ways, like lots of families, will work very closely with a tuning fork, and you can use that and the vibration of sound to get to the same answers as you can with muscle testing. I love that there is, it’s not like a one-size-fits-all, and yet there is a place and a space for everyone, if they have the clarity as to how they want to use their tool. I guess it’s a good way to put that.

One of your go-to tools is actually something that many listeners will not be familiar with, and that’s craniosacral therapy. Please elaborate on what that is, how it works, and why it would be relevant for our listener, even if they don’t have a baby.

It’s a beautiful tool. I spent about 12 years in my practice doing that full-time, in various roles, including birth doula, postpartum doula, and childbirth educator. But once you have an item, you’ve got this experience as well. It’s like, once you have a confidence level with a tool, it’s kind of like riding a bike. It can be sitting in your back pocket or in the toolbox. It might even be a little dusty or a little rusty, but you find the need to pull out that particular tool, and you find that you rub off the dust a few seconds later, and suddenly it’s working. 

So, I will use it at home with my own family. I have even found energetically, there are times where I can feel so let me back up craniosacral therapy. We hear cranial, we hear sacral, so the cranial sacral system of the body, which can be held very gently, and at the same time be practitioner to client, where we can sort of get enmeshed and entangled, if you will. 

Measurement happens more like in person, right? I might scoop my hand under the sacrum and have my other hand sitting above the pelvic girdle, and just feel. The experience of being the person on the table is like, 

“Wait a minute. I feel like my body is moving. I feel like my pelvis is moving. It’s kind of rocking back and forth.” 

But if you really look at the hands of the practitioner, they’re not really moving. What’s happening is the tissue starts to unwind and soften. Then, we follow that tissue. So I will sit up or open my eyes when I’m on the table receiving craniosacral therapy, because I feel like this right leg is over the left leg, and it’s like, 

“Oh, there’s not a whole lot happening.” 

And then our body can go through this tissue unwinding, where you can see something like an arm and a leg being literally unwound, guided, supported, and held so that it can move, release, and open. Now, the enmeshment piece is more of an in-person experience, whereas the entanglement, i.e., quantum entanglement, is a concept I first experienced probably seven years ago in a more structural sense, Stephan. 

I was working with a practitioner. I was receiving a session more of an intuitive, getting my act together, what’s blocking me, and what’s holding me up. We had all these conversations about my past and some of these blocks to my own personal growth. Then, he said, “You know, close your eyes, and I want you to do this body scan.” So I’m kind of going through and doing this body scan. It occurred to me it had been a while since he said something, and I thought, like, 

“Oh, did he drop his phone or his screen?” 

“Oh, did I fall asleep? What happened?”

And I opened my eyes, and what I saw was true magic. His eyes were closed. He was completely in his zone. And as I’m watching him, I was like, 

“He’s adjusting my spine.” 

That’s what he’s doing. He is unwinding, and he is facilitating the release of different vertebrae in my spine. I’ve been a chiropractic patient since I was 12, and I’ve tried every modality under the sun. In that moment, I was able to close my eyes and go right back in, receiving and allowing the energy work that he was doing. I can have a baby who’s feeling stuck, because my practice is 100% virtual at this point, and I will tap into what my hands can feel. 

Close my eyes, bring my hands together, and let them move through me, almost like a body scan, as we would do with muscle testing. But if we get to what I call the structural right, we’re looking at energetic and emotional aspects, as well as different organ systems. We’re examining the physical organ systems, and then we’re looking at what I call structural issues. I want to know what’s going on with the muscle tissue, the skeleton, and the fascia, and I can use muscle testing to assess the extent of the problem. 

Suppose you have had any sort of trauma, whether you know it or not. In that case, Dynamic Body Balancing is a gentle and easeful way of allowing the body to begin to literally digest those traumas, experiences, and events, and unwind and process them out right there on the table.

And then I can take that muscle testing number, if you will, and go through and go, 

“Oh, this is a match for the fascia.” 

“Okay. Well, as you know, that’s one big spider web network from head to toe. So we can use muscle testing to hone in on.” It’s like the cervical area or the pelvic area. And I can go in and feel, and do some work on my end. However, I really love sending people to a site called Dynamic Body Balancing by Dr. Carol Phillips, and she has trained incredibly skilled practitioners all across the nation. 

If we can find someone who can be seen locally, that can work in conjunction with the work we’re doing remotely. It’s profound and a wonderful aid, so that anyone can receive it, love it, and do well with it. But my gosh, Stephan, if you are a super sensitive individual, if you are a child on the spectrum, if you have had any sort of trauma, whether you know it or not, it’s a really gentle, easy, easeful way of allowing the body to begin to literally digest those traumas, those experience, those events, and unwind and process it out right there on the table. It’s like magic. 

So the fascia is really an important part of this process. Is that the largest organ? Or is it the skin that’s the largest organ? I forget.

I think that’s debatable. Honestly, I think that’s debatable myself. I could see it being both in the sense that we learn, from a drainage perspective, that skin is the largest organ, but when you think about the fascia and that sort of mega, like I said, spider web network, where everything is connected. I don’t know, that’s like a match for the skin. I don’t have the exact answer on that. I would say debatable, but what is the consensus on that?   

Interesting. If our listener wanted to try out using a practitioner, you specialize in working with young children and babies, and don’t really work with adults as much, right?

Well, I do. When, say, Mom is coming to bring the child in, it sometimes makes sense to work with Mom first, because Mom’s nervous system is definitely going to call the shots in that household. There are times when we put mom first, and then it’s actual. It’s magical to see some of the things that just get remedied in children by way of their mom really putting on that oxygen mask and managing her own well-being needs. 

Then sometimes it is that the kids come first. There’s the occasional partner who gets pulled along in the process of watching the moms and often the wives, making changes. But honestly, my favorite is that I have three-generation families in my practice, Stephan, and that’s the sweet spot. That is the gold, because you can see the miasmic patterns so clearly that these children carry, and that we work so hard to release. 

But then, if Mom’s on a program, and Aunt is on a program, or Mom and Grandma are on a program, boy, you can really see exactly where some of those conversations start. If you can handle that upstream lack of integrity, if you will, however, that’s coming in. It’s as if it will unwind its way all the way down, and to watch, right? That’s frequency, right? 

That is just to watch that really powerful impact from one generation to another by seeing the problem here and being able to work on it hands-on, two generations up, and then seeing this start to resolve is like you just can’t make that up.

Yes, when you do this kind of work, can’t you go beyond the generations that you’re healing in the session to the generations that have already passed? Isn’t it possible to do like ancestral healing, not just generational healing of the three generations, if you heal something that goes back to the 1700s or something?

I was at a conference speaking two weeks ago, and there was a friend of a friend of a friend who was like, 

“Oh, can you help this woman out?” 

And she kept holding her neck. Well, I was quick testing her. I wasn’t distracted by it. I can’t do my job. But I was drawn to, what is this thing going on here? Why is her thyroid behaving the way it is? What’s going on here? She had a whole vocal cord issue. Long story short, I started testing back through generations, and it was a number of generations. I kind of laughed, like, “You’ve got something really old going on here.” 

And she was like, “You mean over, like, 300 years old?” 

And I was like, “Well, let me check, 300.”

Unfortunately, what gets people’s attention is not their lack of feeling centered and grounded, nor their lack of self-love.

She says, “33,” and I got to 330, and then I checked 335, and it was not beyond 335, nor below 330. She had just learned from a practitioner that she had worked with, who was like a grandmother. A kind of situation had been like hanging as one of the Salem witches, and that might be a lot for somebody to hear, know, and believe as truth. But here she is, 333 years later, with this out of the blue quasi-illness in her 40s that literally was taking her vocal cords when nothing was going on but some nodules, essentially it just blew my mind. 

It blew my mind to see that accuracy, and you can start to untangle that energetic mess we get into. So I tell people, describing a miasm is like saying as you were coming through the birth canal, or even being born by a C-section, it’s like you grabbed some luggage on the way, or some of it was placed upon your back, and it wasn’t yours, and it doesn’t belong to you, but you didn’t know. 

You came through with it, and yet here you are, and a lot of people in your life can probably see it, but you can’t. It’s part of what tends to hold us back, I believe, in the emotional and energetic realm, which, as you know and understand, shows up and manifests physically as illness and disease. 

Unfortunately, at the same time, what gets people’s attention is not their lack of feeling centered and grounded, nor their lack of self-love; that’s not the thing that gets their attention. So that’s where we have to do some of our focus. 

Alright, so I know we’re out of time. If our listener or viewer wants to work with you or learn from you, take one of your courses, or become a client, they can do so. Where do we send them?

Myhealthybeginning.com is the site. You can find us on Instagram. You can find us on Facebook. We’ve been around for decades at this point, which is really fun to hear. As of October, I’ve been in this industry for 30 years. Crazy.

That’s amazing. Well, congratulations on your success and all the amazing miracles that you’re bringing through into the physical world. So, I wanted to mention again, this Discover Muscle Testing course that is free. So thank you, Nichi. This was fun. Thank you. So appreciate it. Make it a great week. Go out there and reveal some light in the world, and we’ll catch you in the next episode. My name is Stephan. I’m your host, and we’ll see you in the next episode.

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