How to Read Energy, Chakras, and Aura Fields with Marie Diamond

In this Episode

• [02:55]Stephan invites Marie to share the experiences that shaped her spiritual path, including her childhood, abuse, meditation, and near-death experience.
• [07:52]Marie describes leaving her legal career, working with politicians and entrepreneurs, moving to America, and eventually becoming a feng shui master and teacher.
• [11:50]Stephan asks about the unlikely chain of events that led Marie to become a teacher and mentor within Mindvalley.
• [15:43]Marie breaks down the seven major chakras, the layers of the aura field, and the eighth chakra or “quantum point” above the head.
• [22:42]Marie explains the difference between an enlightened white-light state and the golden frequency she associates with ascension, while emphasizing the importance of integrating spirituality into everyday life.
• [25:42]Stephan connects Marie’s teachings to Kabbalah and The Matrix, while Marie explains why spiritual awakening must be embodied in ordinary life.
• [30:37]Marie reveals how forgiving her abusive father transformed her relationship with her past and explains why releasing emotional pain is essential to spiritual growth.
• [35:55]Stephan introduces the Full Court of Atonement, and Marie shares her forgiveness-letter practice and violet-light meditation for releasing painful emotional attachments.
• [39:50]They discuss how ordinary people can influence their reality, why asking deeper questions is a sign of awakening, and how the internet can accelerate humanity’s spiritual evolution.
• [49:12]Marie explains how she perceives auras, chakras, past experiences, ancestral information, guides, and other energetic impressions while maintaining control over her clairvoyant abilities.
• [56:11]They discuss the Matrix, changing your own world first, and how personal transformation creates a ripple effect that can ultimately impact the wider world.

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Marie. It’s so great to have you on the show.

Thanks so much, Stephan. It’s lovely to be here.

Yeah. I know about you through Mindvalley and some of the other instructors there, like Ariya Lorenz, who’s been on this podcast. That was an amazing episode, and I know that you teach a lot about feng shui, but I’d love to start, if we could, with your origin story, your superhero story, because you really went through a lot, and I think maybe even an NDE. Yeah, I’d love to have our listener, our viewer, understand a bit more about your history.

Okay, thank you. So, I’m originally from Belgium, a beautiful city called Bruges, and I have a Catholic background. At that time, everybody was Catholic almost in that part of Belgium, and so yeah, I was born really with an open sight. So, meaning that I could see energy as a child, very conscious about that, and I could see the chakras and the energy fields of houses of people, and when things were said, I could see the frequencies, and I kept that very much open my whole life. 

And then I grew up in a family where my father had post-traumatic stress. , from World War II. He was a very challenging man in the sense that he was very physically, emotionally, and mentally abusive.  And at the same time, he was a genius. So he had two sides. 

So I tried to navigate as a child between all of that, and it was quite intense. And I was very happy when I was seven, a spiritual master came into my life who started teaching me meditation because I don’t know if I would have gotten out of this very difficult situation the way I did without meditating every day. And so it was what they would call an ascended master, so somebody that would appear to me as a being. 

And he would give me information for many years. That kind of kept me going forward to understand and have as much compassion for my father as possible, but also to try to stay away from him when I saw his energy shift and his chakras going in the wrong direction, according to my vision. So I would, you know, try to leave the house and just try to be safe. To be honest, that was, like, the way of doing things. 

But meanwhile, I was very religious, very spiritual, and so that kind of kept me going. And then when I was 15, I had an accident. I was run over by a truck, and I had a near-death experience, and that shifted a lot for me because I had several accidents in the years before, and each time, like a near-death miss, like a missed death somehow. But that time I was declared dead. They put fabric over me, and I went to the other side. And so, on the other side, in the beautiful light, beings of light told me telepathically that I needed to go back, that I was here in this world to enlighten more than 500 million people, and that was the purpose they gave me. 

So when I woke up a couple of days later, I just knew this was my purpose, but I had no idea what that really meant. Right, the word enlightenment, Stephan, it was not in my vocabulary. Right? Catholic background, Belgium. Nobody talked about that. I just knew it was about making a difference. So I started doing a lot of community work, working also in the Scouts, in organizations where people needed help in my community. I was going to be observant because I thought, like, every day I make a difference. Then I thought, maybe one day I’ll reach millions of people, and that’s when I decided I needed to really improve myself. I didn’t want to go through something like this again.

I started meditating even more intensely, and when my spiritual master came back to me, I asked him what I did wrong, why all this, and he said, “Well, you have bad feng shui. And Stephan, I had no idea what that meant. I had bad feng shui, and the word feng shui was unknown to me again. And so he said, “It’s important for you to move into another room and make it and decorate it in these colors for you and these images. So I started changing that, and my life shifted completely within a few weeks. 

So first of all, the relationship with my father improved, perhaps also because he started understanding he could have lost his daughter. I don’t know. So, all this abusive energy stopped, and the second thing was that I had another abusive experience because I was very much bullied at school, even beaten up by some of the kids, and so that stopped completely.

And I also got my first boyfriend, so I was like, I had friends. I was like, my life, like, if I look back, as a depressed child, suddenly became like a joyful experience. I thought, wow, what I changed was literally meditating more and changing my environment. I had no idea what to do with that, to be honest. And also, my vision for my clairvoyance really increased tremendously, actually. And so, but then I was still thinking, how can I make a difference? So I thought, like, “what if I become a diplomat?” So I’m working for the government, the United Nations, organizations like this. So I need to become a lawyer to become a diplomat in my country.

So I became a lawyer, studied international law and criminal law, and after doing this, I worked for the government, both the Belgian and the European government. But at 30, I thought, you know, it’s great. I make a lot of difference. But I started having a lot of people coming to me to do energy readings, and I was like, Okay, so that’s the way forward also.” And at 31, I stopped my law work totally and started a consulting company to work really with individuals to help them evolve to an enlightened state. That is exactly why my first clients were actually politicians, because I worked with a lot of politicians in my work, and they’re always like, “Oh, you’re always joyful. You’re so focused on things; it’s easy to manifest for you.” 

So my first coaching clients or energy readers, coaching clients professionally, were actually politicians, and then entrepreneurs, and I was then starting. They asked me to speak at their organizations and events, and that’s how I became a public speaker. I started teaching meditation to people because they were really like, Oh, this works for me so that is how I evolved to become, really, 32 years ago, a total spiritual speaker and teacher I didn’t even know. I didn’t even know it existed somewhere else in the world. I thought I had crafted my own direction in life, but then I realized I needed to move to America. If I wanted to reach 500 million people, staying in Belgium meant only 10 million people. I would never reach my goal. 

So I moved to America at 38, and I crafted again and started teaching. At that time, I started not having politicians, but many self-help authors came to me. Meanwhile, I had studied feng shui with a grandmaster in Malaysia. became a teacher of feng shui. So suddenly, I started having these clients, both top self-help authors and Hollywood stars, who wanted me to read the energy and work with Feng Shui. A few years later, I was actually asked to be in a movie, a little movie called The Secret, as the only European teacher, actually. I was also, you know, working with half of the people in The Secret; the producer of The Secret was a client, the publisher, like, I was like, a lot of people were my clients, and they said, like, “Oh yeah, without you this would never have happened.” That’s why I got to name the secret behind the secret; I was like, my nickname.

So I was like the energetic force behind the secret to really manifest things as much as possible, and now with the secret we have reached more than 500 million people, right? So that’s where I think that numbers stayed with me. And now, of course, I am a feng shui master. I have more than 2 million online students. I still, for you know, VIP clients and entrepreneurs, do quantum energy readings, and I’m a global best-selling author, so I keep going and expanding my impact in the world.

Amazing! And wasn’t it a miraculous turn of events that connected you with Mindvalley as well?

So yeah, well, I’m in a mastermind called the Transformational Leadership Council, created by Jack Canfield, and Vishen Lakhiani was actually asked to speak there because they were always looking for some new guests and upcoming strong transformation leaders. And we were actually sitting in a little bus, bringing us from the airport to the event place, and I actually never heard from him at that point. And so he’s like, “What do you do? And I’m like, “I’m a feng shui master. And he was like, “Oh, I don’t know anything about that. It’s all about the mindset. I’m like, “Yeah, but the environment can also influence you by 33%. And he was like, “Oh, I didn’t know that. And so I gave him. I said, “Show me your floor plan, like draw your office and how is business going.” 

And he tells the story publicly, so I can’t repeat it. He said, “well, I’ve actually been losing $100,000 a month for seven months. I don’t really know what to do. I think we’ll need to stop this company.” And I said, “Oh, let me look at your floor plan.” So he drew his floor plan, and I said, “Oh, you are sitting all wrong. So you need to change this and this and this, and have this little app called Marie Diamond App. Download it and follow the instructions. What I say that you need to do.” And so he’s like, “Oh, I don’t believe in anything like that. But he was very intrigued by me. 

So for the next five days, he was always sitting next to me, in the you know when we were he was not teaching and we were like really connected. And then he went home. He lost another $100,000, and so he was like, “Okay, I need to perhaps follow what Marie is saying.” So he changed everything around, and the next month he actually made more than he lost in the seven, eight months before, and he was like, “Oh, she’s onto something, and so he kept doing that and followed all these techniques I just shared with him. 

Then I started putting it up on my vision board. I’m a really big believer in vision boards, so I put them on mine, and it was early 2018. I’m like, I am ready to be a speaker and an author for Mindvalley. Now, Mindvalley was still very, very small. Just a couple hundred to a thousand people knew about it. But you know, I really liked him, and so a few months later, he called me and said, “You know, I really would love to have a class with you. I think everybody should know Feng Shui because it really changed my life” and I said “Okay.” 

And so I was teaching feng shui for life, and it was the first time he did something like a really intense, beautifully filmed program. And so since 2018, I have had several programs, meditations with Mindvalley. I became one of his personal mentors; he has several. But when you know things are not so easy, he gives me a call, and I work with him. I train him, and so yeah, Mindvalley has now reached more than 20 million subscribers, and I’m very happy that I’m part of it.

Yeah, it’s done really well. It’s in the, I think, hundreds of millions in revenue at this point. Yeah, impressive. Yeah, so I’m curious. You mentioned that you had this special sight since as early as you can remember, and you could see chakras. Now, is that different? I know what a chakra is. It’s like an energy center, and there are like seven of them, or eight, or something. I’m not that clear on it, but I generally know what it is. But I normally hear about people seeing auras, not chakras. So, what’s the difference there, and what you can see versus when somebody says they can see an aura around a person?

Yeah. So according to ancient knowledge, there are 7 major chakras. There are also some smaller ones, like the seven arcs connected from the top of your head to your tailbone. But for example, we also have hand chakras, we have foot chakras, and some people will describe smaller energy centers. 

Isn’t there an eighth one that’s above your head?

Yeah, we call that a quantum point. Yeah. So, but most people, you know, if you’re not awakened yet or not spiritually, that eighth chakra doesn’t show up. I mean, I see this. I call it the quantum chakra.

So can you see them? Like, can people just say that on a Zoom call? Like, can you see my chakras?

I can see up to as much as I can, right? So I cannot see lower than your chest, right? So I can’t read into that, yeah, because I need to visually see things. So in Sanskrit, chakra means energy wheel, and it’s very interesting. I see the colors, but it’s like a symbol. And in Sanskrit, or in ancient systems, they show it as a symbol for that. But I see this as a spinning wheel. It’s literally spinning, yeah. And so, it’s in our etheric field, so it’s our physical body, but we also have an aura field. The aura field is in three different layers. 

So we have the etheric field, which some people call the prana body, and then we have the emotional body and the mental body. And so the etheric body is literally like 10 centimeters, right, three or four inches from our physical body, and that chakra is in there, so it’s not in the body. It’s just in front of you, right? And so I see that that energy, and I, and it’s I see also if it’s too slow, if there’s a blockage there, and then you know I work with that when I do energy readings, I can see that and and open, see what the blockages that need to be opened, right? 

So I’m talking about, and now we are opening that by releasing the blockage. So this is what we do now. An aura field- we can see; we can look at the etheric body. Most people, when they say they see the aura, see the emotional part of the body, the emotional part is always moving because we’re always having different emotions. Yeah, so when people say, “Oh, I see red and purple and whatever,” and they even have aura machines, right, that they can take pictures of it and they can actually see these moving colors. What is cool, right? For sure. Now, interestingly enough, many, many years ago, when I had already reached an enlightened state, when I was 27, they actually were doing this aura, and so they were taking a picture. 

But my aura field was completely white because if you’re emotional and your mind is going all the way, then it moves all the time. It’s never steady. But when you are in that space of enlightenment, calmness and peaceful energy, your aura field won’t reflect all these colors. It will actually be almost like a tube of white light. Yeah, you will be like that in light energy, and so I always check the etheric field first because the etheric field, if that is not calm, yeah, then your life is a little bit chaotic, yeah, and your nervous system is overwhelmed. 

So we always try to calm that down first. So when I do my meditation techniques, I always focus first not on the colors of the aura field, but on making it calm, so that you are not losing energy, yeah. So to calm down the etheric, the emotional, the mental body, because only then we can actually connect and activate with what you call the eighth chakra, or what we call the quantum point. And the quantum point, in some cases, is what people would call the higher mental body, or access to the higher self, or the causal body. There are many words for it, but that’s when we connect with that point. 

And in ancient traditions, they were actually the people that could connect with that, they would wear a higher hat. So think about the pharaoh hat. Think about the hat of the llamas or a berry hat or the magical hat, right? So the magician, right? They wear all these hats. So it actually is that eighth chakra, as you called it, but or that quantum point, is an arm length above the top of our head, and that’s actually, for example, when we do ballet, right? When ballerinas stand on their toes and put their hands up, they actually are connecting with that point. Yeah, so we call that the quantum point.

When you connect with that quantum point, your left and right brain start working together, and that is where you are in the most intuitive state. Your analytical mind and your creative mind also work together. What they should be, right? We need to not just be analytical. We don’t  just need to be creative. We need both working in harmony. That’s what I’m always teaching my students, my entrepreneurs and my VIP clients, because yes, I’m a spiritual teacher, but also a businesswoman, right? So I run companies, so I can’t do both at the same time if these two parts of the brain aren’t working well together.

Right, and you mentioned that your aura was white, and that a lot of times people go through various emotions, and the aura colors change all the time. That reminded me of the Hawkins scale. David Hawkins wrote Power vs. Force. Other books as well, Letting Go, etc. But in the book, he talks about an emotional scale, like an energetic emotional scale, and the lower frequencies would be things like hatred or apathy, anger, disgust, etc. 

Higher frequency emotions would be bliss and joy and peace and calm and so forth. And then near the top of his scale was enlightenment, and I think it goes to 1000. And enlightenment is like 700 to 1000. Now there’s talk about being higher. Apparently, there’s a way to be higher than 1000 on the Hawkins scale because of things happening in our world, like a mass awakening and so forth. So, I’m curious to hear. First of all, what are your thoughts about the Hawkins scale and about being able to go above 1000, and how does that relate to the colors of the aura and the white? I’m guessing it is 700 plus. If I’m, you know, guessing right here.

Yeah, correct. So I mean, I think Hawkins really was really good at trying to find a mental model to describe the energy levels of the emotional range. Right. So I think it’s been very helpful for many people who are more analytical to understand, like, okay, what are numbers? Because from an analytical perspective, you always want to look at numbers. So I think he did a great job moving forward, but it is, in a way, limited, yeah, because he only focused on enlightenment, while there are higher states of being beyond enlightenment. 

So when people already are in an enlightened state, they will have a complete white light. But when we go more and more into what we call an ascended state, yeah, then that aura field will become golden. And so you will see that, for example, in ancient traditions, like think about the Buddha, they would actually show him as having a golden chakra or golden head, or a golden halo. Even in the saints, for example, in the Christian traditions, you think about Jesus or Mary or some of the apostles. They would actually be described with a golden halo. So, that means that they are able, or they try to depict that somehow. Then people see that also. 

I was recently in Manchester. I was meditating, and they were filming, and they saw all this gold coming over me. So it is actually that golden state, yeah, where we are beyond the 1000s, and so we are more and more into that ascendant frequency, so I think Hawkins could only work till 1000 because he himself was on that level, right? But there is beyond that, yeah, and we call that ascension frequency, or Buddha frequency, or Christ frequency. So there are more and more beings and human beings that can go beyond that state, but all the important parts of that, whatever state you are, I always say the most of it, the most important for that, is how to integrate it because it’s wonderful. 

I could have sat in the mountains of the Himalayas. Right, but I was very clear when my spiritual master said, “This is wonderful that you are at that frequency, but you need to integrate it into your normal human life. You know, I’ve been married for 35 years. I have three children. I run businesses. I speak publicly. I do online work and constantly interview whatever it is. I need to hold that frequency in my daily life because it’s wonderful to reach a certain level. But how do you bring that into your daily life, and how do you then impact people with that? That is, I think, what I try to really teach people.

Yeah, that’s really important because we live in the world of action, in Kabbalah called Assiah. That this physical plane of existence requires that we bring down the energy from the higher realms, the higher dimensions, to the physical, so that we’re not just blissing out up in the clouds. That doesn’t actually draw that energy into the physical and manifest it here for the benefit of humanity. It just helps you to have fun and bounce around in the clouds until the bill comes due or whatever, right? So yeah, I totally get what you’re saying. I’m curious whether this golden energy you describe and these ascension levels are reflected in the Matrix movies, where the code goes from green to golden at certain points, and I wonder if that’s not just a coincidence.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence, you know. But I think it’s so important what you just shared. It is, and for me also, it’s like I have a normal life, but perhaps for some people I’m not normal. But I think I’m totally normal because I think that’s the normal state of being for all of humanity. But how can you really create massive awakening if the masters are not just, you know, in their physical world and can talk to people and can, wherever they are, create a frequency of high vibration so that wherever I go, if it’s the shopping mall or if it’s, you know, in a spiritual retreat, or I’m speaking, so that that energy shifts. 

And I remember in 2018, I was speaking at an event in Los Angeles for Mindvalley. There were like 2000 people in the room. I also have these pictures that people took from that moment that I became completely translucent and became like totally gold energy. So it was very interesting to see me transferring into that state of being, and I remember afterwards there were like hundreds of people lining up to come and hug me, and so the other teachers were like, “What is going on? I said, “Yeah, they just want to be part of that frequency, right? So I set that frequency, but it also means that, you know, people are looking for it. You know, they’re looking for, first of all, that calmness. 

The night before he died, I forgave him completely. I meant it, I felt it. If I can forgive the man that hurt me the most in my life, then I can turn that from hate into compassion.

You cannot reach enlightenment if there’s not a certain amount of calmness in your life. Now it doesn’t mean you’re lazy or something. It’s just that the way you approach things, as you said, the lower levels of emotions are, you know, cleared right out of you. And I had to learn this myself, you know, when my father passed on. I was 25. He was 68, and so at that moment, I hated my father. I mean, literally, the word “hate” was definitely the correct word for me because I was like, whatever I have gone through. And then I was like, and then he shared some of his story in the last weeks before he died. I thought like,” well, I have two things I can do, or I can go into compassion, or I can even hate him more for whatever I just heard about what happened to him and what he did to others,” and I was like,” okay, I have a week.” I just knew when he would die. I got visions of that, what the exact time would be that he would pass on. 

And so the day or the night before he died, I forgave him completely, so I said to him, I meant it, I felt it, and I was like, if I can forgive the man that hurt me the most in my life, then I can turn that from hate into compassion. Ultimately, whatever hatred there is, whatever pain there is, the person carrying that pain is also affected by it. Yeah, and so I don’t want this to affect me any longer when he passes on. And I always say this was probably one of the most important parts of my life, because at the moment I understood that my father’s soul had taught me this lesson. To change my hate into compassion and love, and so I would-I know I would never have been able to reach an enlightened state about a year and a half later if I had not let go of that deep hate in me. 

Ultimately, whatever hatred there is, whatever pain there is, the person carrying that pain is also affected by it.

And so, because a lot of people don’t understand all these emotions-I understand it’s not easy to change that, and I work, you know, with 1000s and 1000s of people over the years to work on forgiveness. And I said, first of all, forgive yourself for carrying it with you. You know, perhaps you’re not ready to forgive people around you. I totally get that. It’s one of the most difficult things, especially when a lot of traumatic experiences have happened in your life, and happen to you. Still, you can start already letting go and forgiving yourself for holding on to it, and say, ”look, I allow myself not to longer carry this,” because if you carry this, then ultimately the person that hurt you is probably not even aware of what has happened to you from them, or they’re not. You know, they don’t see it as a problem, but you are still carrying it. 

And so I always suggest people really work with that. And in my newest book series called Manifest, the Manifest collection that’s available in good bookstores and online. There’s one book that’s called Manifest Your Healing, and actually this book here. And so there, I tell the whole story of how you can actually work through forgiveness to create more healing in your life, and it’s a very powerful story. Still, I’ve also seen the change in people’s lives if they choose not to hold that energy for themselves anymore.

Yeah. So forgiveness is not condoning. You’re not condoning their behavior; you’re releasing them from whatever hatred, disgust, disrespect or whatever you have for them and their soul and allowing them to face whatever consequences they’re meant to face. You’re not releasing them of their karma. You’re just releasing them of this. I don’t know this anchor, this negative thread that connects the two of you, I guess.

In my language, in Dutch, the word for forgiveness means ‘far from a gif,’ and ‘gif’ means poison. So when you forgive, you release the poisonous energy that you’re holding on to.”

Yeah, I think that’s a nice way to share it. So, what I would say, in my language, in Dutch, you know, the word forgiveness means far from a gif. Now, in my language, gif means poison, right? So, when you forgive, you kind of release the poisonous energy that you’re holding on to, right? Because of the link. Now it’s possible that you’re not ready to forgive. Still, you can start saying, “I am willing to forgive, and ultimately you are first of all forgiving yourself for holding on to that pain to keep that thread going, to keep that conversation going, to keep that emotional blockage going because most of the time the other people are not feeling that forgiveness state they don’t feel that energy but it’s like you’re starting to work with compassion towards their soul and first of all compassion to yourself that these things have happened to you, and to let go of the blame and the guilt that you perhaps feel for what has happened to you, because that’s not necessary to hold on to. 

And so, one of the techniques I use, and that has been helpful for many people, is to write a forgiveness letter. And so, to write down, like, first to yourself, to forgive all the things you’ve been holding on to, but also to the person that has really created huge issues in your life, and that can be from a person or an organization or a government. Sometimes, you know, it can be a very wide family, whatever it is. You’re always writing that letter to their soul, because most of the time, victims have never had the courage, or the possibility, the ability to even share what they want to say to the person that hurt them, because they’re too afraid, or they feel the person is not existing anymore. They could also write a letter to their soul and say everything they ever wanted to tell that soul, like, “This is what you did to me, and you know this is the result of it, and I could never tell you how much I hated you.” Like, if you had a conversation with the soul of that person or that organization, what would you tell them? Yeah, but you write it down, and then at the end, you can say, “Well, I am willing. Not that you need to be ready. I’m willing, right, to start the forgiveness process, the release process of this,” and then you take that letter, and you burn it. 

They’re alive. They’re not alive. But the relief you feel, the release you feel, is monumental.

You go when it’s beautiful sunlight outside, not with a full moon or something, bu just when it’s beautiful sunlight, you take this letter, you burn it, and you let it go. I have done this with hundreds of people, and at the same time, it’s such a relief when people do that. Like we sometimes do it all at once. We’ve done it on Mindvalley events, and so when you do that, you can do that even with your family together, or as a couple, or mother-child, or father-child. It sets like a new frequency, and you send that smoke up to their soul, like wherever they are. Doesn’t matter. They’re alive. They’re not alive. But the relief you feel, the release you feel, is monumental. It’s so intense, and then I’ve seen people, you know, things start shifting for them because they’re not holding on to that conversation that they never had with a person that hurt them.

Yeah, it’s powerful. Reminds me of another process. I don’t know if you’re familiar with it, but it’s called the Full Court of Atonement, developed by Amy Jo Ellis. She channels Abraham, and this is how she got this technology. I guess it’s a way of calling in a court, like a heavenly court, where the parties that you name are the ones that have to show up in court. It’s their souls and their higher selves. Because there’s a higher vantage point up there, the souls are like, “Oh yeah, I could totally see how you would have reacted that way, and I totally get that. I’m really sorry,” and everything, you know, settles out of court, you know, essentially, and things shift in the physical. Yeah, there’s a whole set of statements for different kinds of things.

Beautiful teachers out there. I don’t know her, but she came up with certain techniques, right, to help out with that. Then one of the things I do, we do every morning with our students. We call the tubes of light meditation. It’s also available on my Marie Diamond app. So we are working with the color of forgiveness, and the color of forgiveness is actually violet, and that’s a quantum color that works for everyone. So every morning we’re visualizing that from our feet we’re seeing violet light going into our body, to our aura field, till above our head, and we’re actually saying, “I forgive myself, and I forgive anyone that you know I’m ready to let go of, right?

Or their actions, their thoughts, their feelings, whatever they have created for us. It’s like a daily clearing of karma, daily clearing of, you know, things that we are subconsciously holding on to, or consciously still holding. So by doing every day a clearing of karma and forgiveness, we see that over time people start having less and less of the heaviness of the things that are bothering them or holding them back from being their full potential, and that’s why I love what Hawkins said because people are just sometimes not aware of the frequency of these feelings. 

If people would say to me, like, “Do you hate anyone?” “No, no, I don’t.” “Do you have any disgust?” “No, like these are emotions I don’t have anymore.” Now, you can say about the art things in the world; you could really feel that for an. Of course, there could be, but it’s all if you are years and years able to hold that certain higher level. You keep looking at it from a higher perspective, like that higher vantage point, right? It doesn’t mean that we are, you know, not feeling compassion for what happens to these people who go through difficult situations, and that could be conflicts and wars. 

But there’s always another way to look at it from a perspective. What can I do in meditation to send light and healing to their souls, and to support them even in the physical world, if you can, right? So there are many ways to look at it, but I do believe if we have this kind of lower emotions and we hold that, also as a collective, that’s one of the reasons we keep attracting certain collective situations, yeah. So if there are times when we see something on television, and we say, “Oh, I hate this. I do this. I did this. I delete all this now, we’re actually contributing to a collective identity of that field. And so, because that field is there, then again it will manifest and naturalize to people or in situations where that kind of feeling is very strong.

Yeah, and somebody who’s just like a regular person, just living their life, they might not understand that they’re very significant because they’re the observer in their slice of the multiverse. So, what they think, feel, perceive, and the rules they judge by kind of set the rules for the game in their slice of the multiverse. Right?

They are, and of course, it’s not always so easy, right? When you are not an observer of things, and you don’t look at it from a higher vantage point, right? So, I think more and more people awaken to, first of all, start asking questions about their own lives. It’s always the first thing when people start asking, like, “Why am I doing this? Who am I? What is unfolding?” So the moment of the why, the how of things. So when people start asking questions, that’s actually an awakening state already. Like that’s the beginning of the awakening, because they’re like, “Oh, do I still want this? I mean, do I want to repeat that same pattern?” 

So all these questions-that is the mind, you know, the higher mind. I would say that it has more and more influence, and the monkey mind stops repeating itself. Yeah, and so the more we have that, and that’s why it’s so important that we- Stephan, we have podcasts like your podcast and so many other areas- not the traditional media anymore, and even in traditional media, they are opening up already. 

Why am I doing this? Who am I? What is unfolding? When people start asking questions, that’s actually an awakening state already.

Also, what is amazing, right? But that people have access to so many resources now, right? That people can start like, “Oh, I’m listening to that. I’m seeing that. I’m seeing all these things.” That’s why I love the internet, right? Because I believe it has helped awaken humanity. Because if we only watched the traditional ways of books, movies and media, we probably wouldn’t have this ability to wake up more and stronger.

Now you mentioned this meditation that’s in your app. You visualize purple light. Is that the violet flame that they’re visualizing in doing this meditation?

Yeah, because the master that came to me when I was seven and guided me over the years is Saint Germain, so he’s the one that brought that technique forward. So, but we work with different colors too. He shared with me that there are 24 quantum colors humanity can work with, and before they use the violet flame, we work with other colors to really build up. 

I would say a quantum field, so that is high enough, so we are not affected all the time by other people’s lower emotions and lower mindsets. It doesn’t mean that we’re looking down on them. We’re just trying to help the people around us. Still, we cannot be so easily affected by their emotions, because how can we uplift others if we’re constantly affected by the chaos of other people’s emotions and minds?

Now, there’s a way of looking at this that I learned from Kabbalah, where everything is divinely orchestrated. Nothing is by accident. So, if somebody harms you, you know it’s from the heavens. That person, that instrument, was just a stick God used to smack you.

So if you look past the person that hurt you to see that, oh, this is God of course-correcting me or allowing me to grow or evolve, or, you know, putting me in a kind of a pressure cooker environment so that I’ll be forced to grow. Maybe forgiveness isn’t even necessary because you don’t see that person as having been at fault. They’ve just had a low vibration to be used as a stick; you know that person had better control over their emotions. God would find another way to smack you back on course. So I’m curious what you think.

Well, you know, I do believe that for every soul there is a divine plan. Yeah, and if you find this connection with God or the Creator, the infinite intelligence, whatever you call that. So yes, if you have a new divine plan to go through certain lessons, like I had to go through the lessons of abuse, right, on many levels in my life, and so to get to the other side, I could have compassion and not judgment towards the people that were doing that. The moment I did, my life shifted. So yes, that could have been my father. It would not have been my father if I had not forgiven my father. Probably I would have attracted an abusive husband. Yeah, so an abusive boyfriend. 

So somebody taught me that lesson, but I do believe that forgiveness is still important because, even if you know that, yes, there are probably people who are helping me out. Forgiveness also helps you release the emotions that you have created in that situation, and for you to be able to go to that level of compassion or to see it really on that higher note, it’s very difficult if the emotions are still stuck. And you can, of course, from an analytical perspective, say, “Yeah, it’s just one of the lessons I have to learn. But that doesn’t mean your emotions are in harmony yet. Yeah.

You could even be spiritually bypassing, and not dealing with the emotions that you’ve stuffed deep down inside.

Correct. And so I see people sometimes who are like, “Oh, I bypass this,” and ultimately the body will come forward and say, you have not cleared that, and that could then be some health issues or whatever it is, right? So I will give you an example. I have a girlfriend. We have girlfriends from high school, 12 years old, right? And so I just saw her again. I hadn’t seen her for 10 years, and so she looked very old, very gray. I was shocked, right? We’re the same age, and I said, she said to me like, “I don’t know what you do. You keep looking young. You have all this fun in life and life.” I said, Where is it between zero and 10? ” How is your life at two?” I said, What is your number?” I said Nine and a half, 10. I don’t know. Very good, right? How did you do that? So, well, the big difference is you never forgave your husband for divorcing you and putting you through your difficult times. 

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She said, “Yeah, but it was so tough. I said, “Yeah, it was tough. But I mean, to be honest, that’s 25 years ago. You’re still carrying it, yeah. And so her health, her mental health. She goes in and out of psychiatric care.  and so on. So I mean, we started at the same time, and she’s like, “Yeah, but I had a bad childhood. I’m like, “Sweetheart, mine was much worse, you know. So I know your childhood. I know mine. You know, I think I beat the odds there, right? So, but the whole point is that yes, you could bypass that, but her physical and mental health has been affected by holding onto these emotions. So I don’t believe in just bypassing it. And like, yeah, I understand how it’s all working. The body still holds the emotions. Yeah.

Yeah, the body keeps the score, as the famous book says. Let’s talk a little bit. I know we’ve got to wrap up here soon, but I’m curious to get more of an understanding of how you experience the ethereal world in your everyday life and, like, in clairvoyance and vision. Can you see it while you’re looking with your eyes? Is it part of your regular vision, or do you see it when you close your eyes, or can you see it both ways? 

And I guess I want to distinguish like two types of clairvoyance that I understand. One is kind of like in your mind’s eye, your third eye, where you’ve just got your eyes closed, for example, and you’re thinking of a pink elephant, or you’ve got your eyes open. You’re still thinking of the pink elephant, and you can kind of sense it in your mind’s eye. 

But there’s another type of vision where it’s hyperrealistic. It looks as real as reality does. Once, and I haven’t had many of these, but I’ve had a handful. And once I even opened my eyes, and I saw the vision of that room that I was in, or being shown, on top of the background of the bedroom that I was in, and it was like an aftereffect, but not with inverse colors, with the correct colors, and it slowly faded away. And I was like, “Wow, this is wild! So I’m curious to hear more about these kinds of two different ways of experiencing clairvoyance.

Well, for me, it’s like when I look at somebody, I see, as I can see with my normal eyes, but can my eyes open? I have learned to tune in, tune out, to see it with my eyes open. Yeah, so I can see, like, when I shift, like it’s almost part of my being that I’m shifting somehow, and then I see, like, you know what is in the aura field. I see the chakras, but many times I also see these videos, and I call this. I didn’t. It’s almost like YouTube videos, like short videos that I see next to somebody, and suddenly I see what could be a past life or traumatic experience that I see that is unfolding, and I can see it as I’m looking at them. 

I don’t believe in just bypassing it. The body still holds the emotions.

So sometimes when I read. Want to go on a deeper level? I will close my eyes, and then I go deeper down that road. Yeah, but yeah, these things show up. But I can also, and I’ve learned. When I was nine, I had to ask my master, “Can I please close this off when I want?” Because I was, I remember going into a shopping mall. I was like, I was going nuts almost because I saw all these energies around people and on them, and I was seeing if there were, like, wandering spirits. I was like, okay, this is the reality I can see, right? That other matrix energy I can see, so I learned that when I was nine years old. I can close it off if I want. 

So I can also have a little bit of a normal life, when I go shopping or when I see people. Because when I’m, for example, speaking in a room of 1000s of people, if that were all on, that is just not easy to work with. Because you see the physical and the etheric at the same time. So I’ve learned to, like, okay, I can. It’s almost like a volume knob, and I kind of take the volume down, or I can put the volume up, yeah, and then I can see. So when I work with somebody, then I can see that more than you know. But it could be things from this lifetime, things from the past or things from the ancestral lineage. 

I see visions, like appearing next to him, or when there’s a guide coming in or an ancestor, then it’s not just seeing. I also hear very clearly, you know, messages, and I’m not a medium. I’m not a channel. This is very like I really clearly hear the energy of it, and it could be somebody that passed on that I like giving information, but they always give very clear information. I remember people are looking for papers. They tell exactly what these papers are like, but it’s not coming through me. It’s always connected with the fields. Yeah, so I don’t bring in a spirit through me to do that. I’m. It’s more. It’s more of a telepathic connection than bringing it in; I chose not to go that road.

Yeah, I think that’s wise. It’s kind of dangerous to let that energy in. Sometimes you don’t know what you’re dealing with.

Well, it is. You know, some people are very well trained in that, but I just didn’t want to go that road. Yeah.

And so when you hear the energy of the person, and with your clairaudience, is it in, like, an accent of the person? Like if you were to hear Gandhi, it would be in an Indian accent.

Well, it’s very interesting. I hear them in their own language, yeah, and then it’s almost like a translation that comes through, yeah, and sometimes I will say the words, or I remember I was working and supporting a Tibetan monastery in India. They wanted me to look at some of the information from one of the lamas that needed to be confirmed. They said, like, we know you can because they got that from me. They said, “ We know you can even see these signs.” So I wrote it down. It’s like I heard the language. I could not understand it’s Tibetan, but I actually wrote down the script. 

Like I saw the images of the letters, and then they had prepared like three answers that they thought would be right, and I apparently had written down one of the answers. So sometimes it’s like it could even be sounds that I say, the sounds that I’m, like, I don’t know very well. I mean, I speak several languages, but some languages I don’t know, right. Or I will say this translation. I hear this word and think, ” Oh, that means this, yeah, so it’s very interesting.

The future is never clear until you know someone’s present.

Still, sometimes I see the visual of, you know, like I wrote down Tibetan without knowing Tibetan, yeah, so. Still, it’s also, in a way, sometimes remote viewing, like and suddenly I can say I see this in your house and I see this and this happening there. I remember one woman, and she was like We lost the papers of my father, and he was in Venezuela, and I heard him saying things. ” I said I think that’s what he’s saying, but he showed me literally the visual and said, “Do you have something like this in the house?” and said, “Yes, okay.” And I told her what to do, and then they found the paper. So it’s very interesting. 

Wow. 

I’ve seen many things in my life, but it’s also like almost remote viewing from the past or the present, because I can see things from what has happened in your childhood. Then that’s remote viewing in the past. Yeah. Now I’m not focusing that much on that, but my high-end clients use this knowledge all the time. But it can also be about seeing the right directions or what they need to do for the future. It’s always ultimately based on you, because if you change your mindset, if you change your divine plan, if you learn your lessons, things will unfold differently in the future. That’s always the case.

The future is never clear until you know someone’s present. Yeah, and of course there are some directions, there are some guidelines. But I know if I had not chosen at 15 to really accept that mission to reach more than 500 million people, I would never have become who I am now. I might have stayed a lawyer, or I might have become an engineer because I loved math. So that was probably my direction. Would that have been a wrong direction? No, of course not. Every direction is fine, but I don’t think that was my soul’s highest purpose.

Yeah, that makes sense. And you know, when you realize that we’re living in a matrix and that there is no spoon, to quote the Matrix movie, you want to play a different game. You don’t want to just go into your cubicle and do your job. You want to change the world.

Even if it’s your own small world, even if it’s your family, you can improve. Even if it’s your colleagues, you can improve. I mean, we all start somewhere. Like, I just started with my family, right, and then I started with the students in university, in college, where I was already doing energy readings for my students, right. So did my co-students. 

So it’s like whatever you can improve. First of all, improve yourself, but the ripple effect of improving yourself and not staying stuck in the lower emotional field will actually help the people around you. Yeah, and so that will create a ripple effect after a while, not just in yourself, in your family, in your community, in the world around you, and that is how we’re going to make a different universe.

First of all, improve yourself. The ripple effect of improving yourself will actually help the people around you.

Amazing. Well, this was fabulous. You’re so inspiring. You’re such a light in the world. Thank you for sharing your story, your experiences and your insights with such vulnerability and candor. Suppose our listener wants to learn more from you, if they want to download your app, if they want to follow you, if they want to take one of your courses or even get private coaching from you. Where should we send them?

The best place is Mariediamond.com, and they can also find me on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube under Marie Diamond Official, where they can always DM me. We are picking that up, and of course you can download the free Marie Diamond app on all the app stores. And of course, I have many books on feng shui and manifestation on Amazon and in good bookstores. So looking forward, and thank you so much, Stephan, for really supporting me to bring my message out. I really appreciate that.

Congratulations on all your success, and yeah, best of luck with your mission. You’re well on your way, and you, too, listener, are well on your way to making your mission a reality. Go out there and make the world a better place. We’ll catch you in the next episode. I’m your host, Stephan Spencer, signing off.

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